Our passive characters and why the 2.55 story fails (BIG SPOILERS) (rant warning)

**myahele** · 04-03-2015 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by Chasely

We actually had one of those at around levle 20, when we were investigating Ifrit.

Forgot about that. Yeah, there should've been a level-synched instance like that. Especially since the whole ordeal was just cutscenes after cutscenes. Despite being the primal slayer, we'd still be at a disadvantaged due to the ambush and being overwhelmed.

Additionally, it would kinda work against us since they can use that as evidence of us truly being an assassin. Everything after that could play out the same.

**Elusana_Celah** · 04-03-2015 05:34 AM

I really didn't like the conclusion leaving so many things unfixed. Like the first thing I did after all events was teleport back to Ul'dah and walk around like nothing happened? Ok whatever. That kind of stuff falls on a huge peeve of mine and I'm having trouble getting over it that's why I'm ranting my frustration here =/

**Chasely** · 04-03-2015 05:39 AM

Here's why the story sucked: we spent 25 levels gathering random crap for a party thrown in our own honor. Then, we wound up sitting alone at a bar where no one bothered to speak with us. Then, of course, they had to treat all characters like horny straight guys regardless of orientation and character sex. And let's not forget about the 7 nameless women who were raped and/or murdered for the sole purpose of driving the plot (and never mentioned again.) And yes, there's Minfilia, AKA the walking boobs. Her primary characteristics are lacking any kind of leadership ability (she can't make a single decision on her own) and looking good while bound.

it seems like no matter how much you do, the NPCs are so useless and lazy they need you to walk 10 steps, pick things up, and hand them to people standing right next to them. We spend more time running errands fit for new recruits than feeling like epic heroes. And the flattery they lay on us is downright embarrassing. "Oh great hero! Slayer of gods! Please, file those papers on my desk and refill the coffee maker." It's idiotic.

**RowanLauron** · 04-03-2015 06:03 AM

Personally it makes sense to me. Our characters are the tip of the sword in the battle against the bad/evil that goes on in the world. So everyone wants to keep us alive even I they have to sacrifice themselves. You can see it in our characters fave we want to help, but at the same time we understand we need to survive and not make their sacrifices go in vain.

Also besides all that... WTF IS URIANGER DOING WITH THE ASCIANS!!!!????

**Kio** · 04-03-2015 12:38 PM

I understand the trope of the mute and zombie player character so not to suggest they have a personality different than the user. However, I feel like it's a tad bit overused in this game merely because we have such a plethora of beautiful and entertaining cut-scenes. I'd really would like to see an increase in dialogue choices in the future. Even if they're meaningless to the outcome, at least I feel by choosing a response my character isn't just standing around oblivious as a dodo. Also, the few that we have had were all extremely entertaining and clever and just really adds to the experience.

**Averax** · 04-03-2015 12:54 PM

Sadly, as you will find in any story/TV show/game, if characters were smart and made logical decisions, there would be no drama. Nothing to keep you on the edge of your seat. That's why I don't nitpick at the plot, i just try to sit back and enjoy the ride.

Though, when Teledji Adeledji was throwing around accusations when everyone in the room knew he was lieing, i was screaming "YOU IDIOTS, KILL HIM, HE'S OPEN JUST DO IT AND BE DONE WITH IT!" and they just kept going, and when the camera panned to Admiral Merylwyb i was like "SHOOT HIM. SHOOT HIM. For the love of god SHOOT HIM IN THE BLOODY FACE" and she was just like "Bah" and stormed off.

You have no idea how satisfied i was when Raubahn slaughtered him, god i wanted that moment to last forever. That little bit sated me through the rest of the finale.

**Reiryuu** · 04-03-2015 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Averax

You have no idea how satisfied i was when Raubahn slaughtered him, god i wanted that moment to last forever. That little bit sated me through the rest of the finale.

While I agree with you slightly, I think he got off too easy. I would have liked to see him crushed, left penniless and forced to live like all the people he's stepped on. That would be a fate worse than death for him. I, too; however, am sick and tired of my character being absolutely powerless in cutscenes. I have 25 weapons in my hyper-dimensional pocket, 11 i100+ jobs, and while I may be willing to follow someone peacefully, I feel that I would have more than enough bargaining power to go on my own power and unrestrained

(not that I would have ever let Nanamo drink anything after she told me her plans). Being a lvl 50 alchemist I would expect that my character would be knowledgeable or at least have the contacts at her disposal to discover what this suspicious liquid I am carrying around is before I walk into a situation where people I don't trust could spring a trap on me. I mean, I trust Nanamo, but the people around her? Not with a grain of salt.

**Felis** · 04-04-2015 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Reiryuu

(not that I would have ever let Nanamo drink anything after she told me her plans). Being a lvl 50 alchemist I would expect that my character would be knowledgeable or at least have the contacts at her disposal to discover what this suspicious liquid I am carrying around is before I walk into a situation where people I don't trust could spring a trap on me. I mean, I trust Nanamo, but the people around her? Not with a grain of salt.

Something like this?

Quest window pop up:
Require Alchemist lv 50 to process this quest

Player: "What?! I have to level up Alchemist for this? No way, I don't have time for that!"

**myahele** · 04-03-2015 02:33 PM

When it comes to canon manderviles >>>> WoL. Being syndicate members it explains why they won't help

**FoxyAreku** · 04-03-2015 02:45 PM

It's an MMO story, not sure what you expect.

I can't stand silent protagonists, but if our character wasn't silent and passive other people would complain stuff like "My character would never do that" etc. No win situation really.

Also it's related to development time, it'd probably be easier if this was a standard mmo where there's 1 class per character, but in a game where your character can do anything I imagine it's really hard for the game to tell which class you're on in cutscenes or something and use the appropriate response skill/spell.

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