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    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    Best way would be to overhaul the story and cut out all the fluff quests I guess. How did FFXI do it?

    When they finally got around to changing it, they uncapped capped fights, allowed you to take in NPC partners (making them soloable if you were not already lv 99) and other minor things, you still had to do the large amount of quests. but it was quicker because of the changes, and other QoL changes they made (easier traveling ect.)
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    God I hope not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmine_Aurelia View Post
    God I hope not.
    Why not?

    I know some reasons for wanting an unlock quest. They're reasons some people would care about and many others wouldn't, so I can understand a divide between wanting it and not caring. (And there's the tendency of people who don't care about something to object purely for thinking it's unnecessary.) But what possible reason could there be for actually wanting there to NOT be such a quest?

    We're going to have new quests regardless, so why not have the first one unlock the level cap?
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    We're going to have new quests regardless, so why not have the first one unlock the level cap?
    The only reasons I can think of are the same reasons not to gate the expansion content behind the MSQl; it's 40+ hours or so if you skip reading and watching cutscenes, double that if you want to follow the story. But since they are already gating the expansion behind the MSQ, and that will be the only place where being 51+ matters, I could see them adding in a level cap increase quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    The only reasons I can think of are the same reasons not to gate the expansion content behind the MSQl; it's 40+ hours or so if you skip reading and watching cutscenes, double that if you want to follow the story. But since they are already gating the expansion behind the MSQ, and that will be the only place where being 51+ matters, I could see them adding in a level cap increase quest.
    and what is your source for this, last i heard only access to Ishgard was revealed to be gated behind finishing 2.55 MSQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliano View Post
    XIV 1.0 was nothing like XI really.
    The Alpha build had an XI feel to it. Totally different game from what we ended up with. By no means was it good, but there were some things in it I liked because it was much slower paced.
    but they had to be nixed because of they just wouldn't work at the current pace of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    The only reasons I can think of are the same reasons not to gate the expansion content behind the MSQl; it's 40+ hours or so if you skip reading and watching cutscenes, double that if you want to follow the story. But since they are already gating the expansion behind the MSQ, and that will be the only place where being 51+ matters, I could see them adding in a level cap increase quest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    and what is your source for this, last i heard only access to Ishgard was revealed to be gated behind finishing 2.55 MSQ.
    All expansion area's are gated behind MSQ, But I don't see anything that would suggest that the level cap would also be behind that same gate. I also don't believe the very first thing we are going to do in Heavensward is stroll into Ishgard. There will be some story before that happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Did you even bother to read my post? I already pointed out that even if the quests themselves offer no xp the content itself (killing stuff, dungeons, trials) will reward enough xp to have you well on your way to 60.

    As for the leveling curve I wasn't aware that they'd made any statements at all yet. I find it very hard to believe they'd make it so steep after 50 given the more casual audience of this game. Care to give a source for that? I recall them saying the story content covering 50-60 would be as long as the 1-50 story stuff but that is not the same thing as the leveling speed.
    I did, and I doubt that would be the case if you blitzed the content. Remember that trials give diddily squat for EXP, and there are only 2 dungeons that are part of the MSQ (Snowcloak and Keeper of the Lake). From 49-50, you needed about 4-5 dungeon runs of AV, full clears with EXP bonuses, to get to 50.
    So yeah if you finish all the MSQs and don't dawdle around with other content, you'll get MAYBE level 51 or 52, which is fine and just gives you a little bonus leg up on the expansion content to counter the fact that the people who finished it are decked out in gear that likely won't be replaced until 60 dungeon/raid content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I did, and I doubt that would be the case if you blitzed the content. Remember that trials give diddily squat for EXP, and there are only 2 dungeons that are part of the MSQ (Snowcloak and Keeper of the Lake). From 49-50, you needed about 4-5 dungeon runs of AV, full clears with EXP bonuses, to get to 50.
    So yeah if you finish all the MSQs and don't dawdle around with other content, you'll get MAYBE level 51 or 52, which is fine and just gives you a little bonus leg up on the expansion content to counter the fact that the people who finished it are decked out in gear that likely won't be replaced until 60 dungeon/raid content.
    There were no level 50 dungeons in MSQ for 2.1, 2.2, or 2.3. 2.4 had a dungeon and a trial, 2.5 had a dungeon and two trials. I think it's safe to assume we'll have at least 1 dungeon in the 3.0 MSQ, probably a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haibel View Post
    All expansion area's are gated behind MSQ, But I don't see anything that would suggest that the level cap would also be behind that same gate. I also don't believe the very first thing we are going to do in Heavensward is stroll into Ishgard. There will be some story before that happens.
    and again, what is your source that EVERY expansion zone will be gated behind MSQ. Last i checked there was mention of adding zones such as West Shroud, which would have very little reason to be gated behind going into Ishgard, which is the only confirmed area to be locked by the MSQ.
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