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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Did you even bother to read my post? I already pointed out that even if the quests themselves offer no xp the content itself (killing stuff, dungeons, trials) will reward enough xp to have you well on your way to 60.

    As for the leveling curve I wasn't aware that they'd made any statements at all yet. I find it very hard to believe they'd make it so steep after 50 given the more casual audience of this game. Care to give a source for that? I recall them saying the story content covering 50-60 would be as long as the 1-50 story stuff but that is not the same thing as the leveling speed.
    I did, and I doubt that would be the case if you blitzed the content. Remember that trials give diddily squat for EXP, and there are only 2 dungeons that are part of the MSQ (Snowcloak and Keeper of the Lake). From 49-50, you needed about 4-5 dungeon runs of AV, full clears with EXP bonuses, to get to 50.
    So yeah if you finish all the MSQs and don't dawdle around with other content, you'll get MAYBE level 51 or 52, which is fine and just gives you a little bonus leg up on the expansion content to counter the fact that the people who finished it are decked out in gear that likely won't be replaced until 60 dungeon/raid content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I did, and I doubt that would be the case if you blitzed the content. Remember that trials give diddily squat for EXP, and there are only 2 dungeons that are part of the MSQ (Snowcloak and Keeper of the Lake). From 49-50, you needed about 4-5 dungeon runs of AV, full clears with EXP bonuses, to get to 50.
    So yeah if you finish all the MSQs and don't dawdle around with other content, you'll get MAYBE level 51 or 52, which is fine and just gives you a little bonus leg up on the expansion content to counter the fact that the people who finished it are decked out in gear that likely won't be replaced until 60 dungeon/raid content.
    There were no level 50 dungeons in MSQ for 2.1, 2.2, or 2.3. 2.4 had a dungeon and a trial, 2.5 had a dungeon and two trials. I think it's safe to assume we'll have at least 1 dungeon in the 3.0 MSQ, probably a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I did, and I doubt that would be the case if you blitzed the content. Remember that trials give diddily squat for EXP, and there are only 2 dungeons that are part of the MSQ (Snowcloak and Keeper of the Lake). From 49-50, you needed about 4-5 dungeon runs of AV, full clears with EXP bonuses, to get to 50.
    So yeah if you finish all the MSQs and don't dawdle around with other content, you'll get MAYBE level 51 or 52, which is fine and just gives you a little bonus leg up on the expansion content to counter the fact that the people who finished it are decked out in gear that likely won't be replaced until 60 dungeon/raid content.
    Has it never occurred to you that there are players who actually want to play the game? Not everyone wants to blitz through everything and skip every piece they can get away with. It's the players who will be doing everything that exists at level 50 who have the problem and need to be able to stay 50 for a while before unlocking the level cap increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Has it never occurred to you that there are players who actually want to play the game? Not everyone wants to blitz through everything and skip every piece they can get away with. It's the players who will be doing everything that exists at level 50 who have the problem and need to be able to stay 50 for a while before unlocking the level cap increase.
    Yes, it does occur to me.
    But it doesn't matter.
    I've played a LOT of games that increase their level cap with expansion, and there's kind of a big problem inherent with the process:
    No one does the old "HM" style content anymore, or at least not to a noticeable degree.
    So yeah, stick around and do everything at 50...and the queues will be terrible.
    After all let me ask you: What reason would the majority of the playerbase have to do Titan EX when absolutely everything except the pony is irrelevant, and there's 10 more levels of content? Imagine the current queues for cape westwind if you want an example of what it'll be like.
    Moreover, since SE has all but specifically stated that the current relic will be made obsolete, as the 60 one will in no way require any stage at any point of it to be done, you can bet dollars of donuts that all that 50 "HM" content is going to come secondary to the expansion content.
    As an example: If a player so wanted in FFXI, EQ1, EQ2, SWTOR, or WoW, they COULD very easily get to the new level cap introduced with an expansion by doing ALL the old content rather than moving on to the new content as it becomes available.
    Most players do not, since there simply aren't enough players actually DOING that content anymore and it's just as easy to go back and do the content at 60 as it is at 50 since it either becomes easy to steamroll or you can find people to actually do it.
    The impetus for the majority of players is to reach max level and do the content that carries them there. There ARE players that want to do EVERYTHING but they're in the minority.
    After all, even after the content has been out for a year, how many people STILL haven't done the mooglemail or hildibrand quests?

    tl;dr: People won't do content that requires groups if there are no groups to do it with.
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