Elezen & Hyur Forbidden Love?

[NovaUltimatum]

Hi all,

I'm not sure, but I seem to recall Fernehalwes saying somewhere that Elezen & Hyur relationships were taboo lore wise. Does anyone else recall this as well?

More importantly, and the reason I've made the thread is, why is this the case? I never caught the reason why it was taboo.

[Edit]

OK, I found the reason. It turns out all the races are kinda at each other:

A: Some of the lore makes it sounds like the conflict between the Hyur and Elezen got pretty heated while others make it sound like a long standing tension. What was the extent of those hostilities?

MCKF: I touched on this a little bit today in the live stream and there was a question about relationships between the races and crossbreeding. A lot of it doesn’t happen because while we have all these races living together in Eorzea, there’s this tension between them. That’s there because they have these histories of fighting for a long time and then not really making up, but agreeing to disagree and living together because it’s better than living by our self and being more susceptible to Garlean attacks or whatever. We work together because we have a common enemy type of thing. Most of the races don’t really like each other and it”s gone on through multiple Eras. There are times when Eorzea has been more populated by one race over another and there will be conflict there. With the Hyur and Elezen, that’s very recent. In the sixth astral era, Elezen migrated in and in that era they were like “we’re the first ones here!” even though they weren’t, but they were the first at the beginning of the sixth astral era and they settled and of course the pesky Hyur who are everywhere come in and the Elezen are like “oh my god we left you that whole continent up there why are you here!” and the Lalafell come in and you have these cycles of clashing and moving part and that gets ingrained in their society and their racial cultures. There’s always these power struggles, you’ll have times when the Lalafell rise for whatever reason and they’l side with one group and then turn on another group and that’s one of the reasons there’s not a lot of interracial relationships because even though they’re living in the same towns it’s like well yeah… but you’re an Elezen.

F: I can just imagine some young Elezen bringing home a Hyur woman and the Grandma going “Why couldn’t you have found a nice Elezen girl!”

MCKF: There’s a lot of that going on. Like i mentioned in the stream, in the future we’ll have some characters that are half one race and half another and we’ll see how they’re treated in society and quests with that.

http://gamerescape.com/2014/10/22/fan-fest-2014-interview-with-michael-christopher-koji-fox/

[Extreme]

didnt know this game had a realistic racist system >_<

[LineageRazor]

We keep getting these tidbits from Fern and others regarding racism and taboo romances - but in the actual game, these things are not very apparent at all. There's many instances of cross-race infatuations and relationships in-game that no one bats an eyelash to. Urianger and Moenbryda, Severian and W'nahja, Longhaft and the twins, just to name a few. And this is to say nothing of the complete lack of restrictions on marriages between adventurers (though adventurers seem to get a free pass against prejudices and taboos in general; even the most deranged hater of Duskwights or Keepers of the Moon are just as cordial to those types of adventurers as others).

Admittedly, I can't offhand think of any Elezen/Hyur pairings, so a prejudice against that may be on the table, but if there's a taboo against cross-racial pairings in general, a person playing the game but not reading the forums would never know.

[Mholito]

We keep getting these tidbits from Fern and others regarding racism and taboo romances - but in the actual game, these things are not very apparent at all. There's many instances of cross-race infatuations and relationships in-game that no one bats an eyelash to. Urianger and Moenbryda, Severian and W'nahja, Longhaft and the twins, just to name a few. And this is to say nothing of the complete lack of restrictions on marriages between adventurers (though adventurers seem to get a free pass against prejudices and taboos in general; even the most deranged hater of Duskwights or Keepers of the Moon are just as cordial to those types of adventurers as others).

The couple in the Wanderer's Palace (Hard) quest, had to flee their home because of their interracial relationship.

[NovaUltimatum]

The couple in the Wanderer's Palace (Hard) quest, had to flee their home because of their interracial relationship.

What races were they? I honestly can't remember that quest.

[myahele]

What races were they? I honestly can't remember that quest.

Highlander and perhaps a keeper miqote?

As for other npcs in an interracial relationship:
*F'llamin and Niellesfren
* The midlander with the elezen from the ixali dialy quests

Although all the other interracial pairings we have seen are either prostitutes or just there for a sex and nothing long-term, so I don't think they really count

[Mholito]

What races were they? I honestly can't remember that quest.

They were a Miqo'te Keeper of the Moon, and a Hyur Highlander.

Edit: I seem to have been ninja'd

[LineageRazor]

How does a Roe breed with a Lalafell, anyone?

Well, according to Discworld's Casanunda, all a lover of diminuitive size needs is a stepladder...

Admittedly, I can't offhand think of any Elezen/Hyur pairings, so a prejudice against that may be on the table, but if there's a taboo against cross-racial pairings in general, a person playing the game but not reading the forums would never know.

I finally remembered an Elezen/Hyur pairing - and, like the other pairings I mentioned, there is absolutely no astonishment, or rebukement, or general feelings of guilt about it (though, admittedly, the pairing is troubled for other reasons):

Detective Briardien and Reporter/Terrorist Ellie from the Hildebrand quests.

[Wadoka]

Consider Lucia...

Hyuran ears, check. But her height; her neck; the way she stands...

Could be somethin' going on there

[myahele]

Consider Lucia...

Hyuran ears, check. But her height; her neck; the way she stands...

Could be somethin' going on there

It might be that because that's how female Garleans look like. There's speculation that she may be a Garlean runaway similar to Cid:



And also also this: