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  1. #1
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    Bklyn718's Avatar
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    Ralph Lauren
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 70

    Summoner or Ninja?

    I have both Summoner and Ninja at level 50 but now its time for me to focus more on just one class to get Zeta and i130 gear. Im having a hard time figuring out which class I should main because I like playing both classes. Which class would be better overall for end game play?
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    Divine_Intervention's Avatar
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    Divine Intervention
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 61
    Both are awesome. Play which you prefer.
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Ninja is better for end game because it is easier to put out good damage then a Summoner
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    Craiger's Avatar
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Well, at the moment SMN is the worst DPS job for endgame raiding... Because they run out of MP too quickly.

    That doesn't really matter at the moment though, because Heavensward is coming soon anyways, and all jobs will be getting some more abilities and traits, and maybe other changes... I'm sure SE are going to fix SMN's issues at that point.

    Heavensward could actually change your opinion on what job you want to play too. Who knows what will change.

    Because of this, just pick the job you like the most, cause it doesn't really matter at the moment.
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    Zenaku's Avatar
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Ninja is better for end game because it is easier to put out good damage then a Summoner
    That wont matter for 3.0 you have to think about what going to happen later on and not thinking of what happening now.
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    melflomil's Avatar
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    Well, at the moment SMN is the worst DPS job for endgame raiding... Because they run out of MP too quickly.

    That doesn't really matter at the moment though, because Heavensward is coming soon anyways, and all jobs will be getting some more abilities and traits, and maybe other changes... I'm sure SE are going to fix SMN's issues at that point.

    Heavensward could actually change your opinion on what job you want to play too. Who knows what will change.

    Because of this, just pick the job you like the most, cause it doesn't really matter at the moment.
    They dont run out of MP anymore, it is their damage output
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    Vallhallix's Avatar
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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Play what you like most. My personal opinion? Nin, its a far funner class and next to blm probably has the best looking skills. It's fast too, very enjoyable. I love it.
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  8. #8
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    Smokey Mcpot
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by melflomil View Post
    They dont run out of MP anymore, it is their damage output
    This seems to be just an opinion. I would be interested to see facts.

    SMN MP isn't an issue any more with the latest update to Ruin/II MP cost. SMN has a more complex rotation than NIN. In my honest opinion, it is more difficult to find a SMN that has maximized their optimal rotation than other NINs respectively.
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  9. #9
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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Basically the true difference; SMN's have to do more to put out similar damage to other classes. Which can sometimes consume much of their mp. Good for substained damage, but terrible at bursting down stuff which is a core mechanic in most fights it's here when SMN shines the least out of all classes. When you're in Cerberus belly in WoD or the Nails on Ifrit ex for example BLM's, DRG's, NIN's etc burst those issues away pretty fast before a SMN can even get all dots up and start doing significant damage. I pretty much destroy a nail in seconds on my BLM. Everytime a SMN is in the party I have to run over to them and help lol.
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    Last edited by Vallhallix; 03-21-2015 at 12:18 AM.

  10. #10
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    Smokey Mcpot
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Agree.. but in these certain scenarios SMNs should know that it may be best to just Ruin + Energy Drain.
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