Thread: Chocobo Racing 2.55

Uhm, you got choco cure 3. Of course you got less stamina problems. Actually R-240 is the easiest race of all, because there are so many monsters and traps, that the NPCs are killing themselves pretty quickly. This will not happen in R-300 (at least not en mass like in R-240 races).

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By the way: I would not take Choco Dash in your situation. Since you got Choco Cure, Speedy Recovery would help you much more. Dash does not really make you faster in R-300. There seems to be a max speed. Or it's a bug, don't know. It really only shines when you reach 0 stamina or to speed up again after a meteor hit. Speedy Recovery should greatly increase the power of your Choco Cure skill. (without Choco Cure, it's pretty worthless, since you seldom get a Choco Potion)


She's dominating R-300. If not "killed" with meteors or very bad luck with item RNG (for example a lot of hero potions for the NPCs), she wins races at ease and at a distance.

Average times (with pretty much no good items, but also no meteor hits): Sagoli: 82s, Costa: 88s, Tranquill: 92s.

But of course this is pretty much a close to perfect chocobo - and even with this -15% stamina drain skill, she can reach 0 stamina at 90-95% (which does not matter for her because dash 3).

So, yeah, it's doable. With a perfect chocobo.

If you read carefully, I did mention that no items nor abilities were used at all in my post. R300 is brutal in the sense that there's little obstacles so it's a straight up raw-power, stat-based race against NPCs who aren't crippled by the usual traps.

The way she posted gave the impression that no matter what she did she'll lose all her stamina at 70%-80% of the race, then end up in 7th or 8th place. With an almost perfect Chocobo. If no one stepped in, people who read it will think it's impossible to race.

Sometimes people over-exaggerate facts to lever for advantages from SE. How dishonest can people get?

Yes now that I've raced plenty of times now in R300, it's pretty evident that it's a mad dash from start to end. Everyone's sprinting almost at the speed of Dash (meaning Dash doesn't help you get out of that Briar because your opponents are basically running at the speed of Dash). This Dash ability helped a ton in the lower races but in here it's just an ability to partially overcome that Heavy and a stamina-saver, which is fair enough I guess.

Getting hit by a Heavy or a Baccus on you at this stage guarantees that you can't finish 1st unless you picked up a powerup to counter that loss in speed/stamina (RNG). This makes defensive abilities really useful, if not almost mandatory to consistently place 1st. I've always looked forward to R300 thinking it was some sort of ultimate racing bracket. But now that I'm in it, I'm not sure if I'm all that happy about it. Will have to race more to find out.

Hmm? I thought it was kinda common knowledge. I guess SE didn't explain the basics well enough.

Whenever a Chocobo is running (non-lathered state), stamina consumption is ideal - Economical. However you won't be able to reach your max speed potential.
Whenever a Chocobo is sprinting (enters lathered state), stamina consumption is drastically increased - Huge stamina drain. You can reach your full speed when you accelerate while in lathered state.

So yes, when you want to conserve stamina you'll want to maintain your Chocobo's speed juuuuuust before lathered state. So W, release, W, release, depending on the terrain: When you're running downhill your speed is faster and you'll hit lathered state faster (3rd Sagolii Box onwards, for example) so you'll have to adjust to that. You're consuming your stamina economically. You can last but you won't be that fast.

When your Chocobo accelerates for a period during lathered state you'll eventually reach your max speed. You're at the fastest state that your Chocobo can be, but you're essentially burning your stamina in favor of speed.

Your accelerate stat determines how long you have to push W (during lathered state) to reach your max speed.
Your endurance determines how high your speed threshold is before you hit lathered state (still unconfirmed but I'm fairly certain).



That's why I drew this up to illustrate. Keep your speed before that red arrow to conserve stamina, accelerate into lathered state to reach your full speed (but really burn stamina in the process). The higher your endurance, the further that red arrow will be.
If your endurance is low, you'll have to accelerate a longer period while in lathered state to reach your max speed. You'll have to burn your stamina inefficiently for a longer period of time before you hit your speed potential.



While this managing of lathered state is somewhat key in lower ranked races, it's rather useless in R300 like Robin said. Everyone's burning their stamina inefficiently, all running at the speed of Dash. Perhaps it's still viable in the longer races like Tranquil Paths but in Sagolii you'll be sprinting for your life (and missing Boxes because of that). When you stop to conserve stamina, the NPCs are right behind you. Not to mention that the NPCs at high levels are really good at blocking you; most of the time they all run the shortest line in the race. In order to overtake them you'll have to take a wider, more time-consuming route. Everything happens so quickly, you can't really afford to make mistakes.

Sorry for the image-spam.

Uhm.. So much hate from my post eh Aphel.. I am only reporting in what I am experiencing, I got over 4000 races done and there is something that happens once you reach the 140~ races, it's like your stamina drain goes up alot or something.
Since I made my first post I did some more testing with letting go each time I see Lathered and let the speed glide by itself a bit before holding W a little and then letting go and I had better results. If the rain weather kicks in my max speed drops and stamina drain even faster, but its better than what it was pre 2.55 atleast.
But like in my first post, I am still experiencing problems with stamina, call me troll all you want, I dont understand where your sudden hate came from. I am here to learn how to do races better aswell~ So I really dont like it when you call me dishonest.

Edit: I read your post and its really nice info, so thank you for that~ Maybe I am doing something wrong so tell me that instead going out on me like that.
Also at 500 Speed, even with 500 End. you hit lathered quite fast, I would like to hear about your races once you get up to this stage aswell.