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  1. #451
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Yda could use LB3, so why could we use LB 3?
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  2. #452
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    Robin Avrelivs
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    Cutscenes.
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...ePowerToTheMax <- Yda, Ilberd for example
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...neIncompetence <- WoL, partly Scions for example

    It's quite typical, else there would not trope about it.
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  3. #453
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    stuff
    Yda doesn't just drop a Final Heaven out of nowhere. Papalymo casted some sort of spell on her (most likely Aura) that gave her the ability to unleash an attack that would normally require the combined power of 8 people. (Also, Papalymo's Fire IIs still hit for I believe over 1k damage, which is more than an i130 BLM can say. He's more skilled at thaumaturgy than we are, if anything.)

    The only time we saw Ilberd actually fight before 2.55 was I believe in 2.4's story, more specifically the instanced fight in Northern Thanalan during The Reason Roaille. And I'm pretty sure he held his own.

    As for some of the other Scions, sure, there might be a trope in play...but - and you seem to want to ignore this fact despite overwhelming proof that it is fact - the Warrior of Light did not have a weapon. I can't really drop a Flare if I don't have a tool to channel aether through.
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    Last edited by gamesmart; 04-24-2015 at 03:56 AM.

  4. #454
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    Brass Blades are all Gladiators. Tempered Will.
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    Rannie Lfey
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    You know, all I have to say is... is it June 23rd yet or betteryet isit early access yet? I can't wait to see how the rest of this plays out... I hate cliff hangers. Lol down with lolorito!
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  6. #456
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    You know, all I have to say is... is it June 23rd yet or betteryet isit early access yet? I can't wait to see how the rest of this plays out... I hate cliff hangers. Lol down with lolorito!
    Word. I'm hoping I can blast through 2.x as my new Au Ra alt during early access.

    The one thing I'm not keen on is how I'm going to have to re-level all the crafting and gathering classes, especially since I want to keep my now-iconic rimless glasses. But ah well.
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  7. #457
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
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    It does not really change anything. Of course I saw Papa's cast, but this would be part of the same trope, having a spell for Level 3 Limit Breaks, obviously cast in an instant, too, without any afford.

    And @ Ilberd. If you just make someone the leader of you group, you collect some informations about them. But sure, it is not clear yet, if Ilberd is possessed or whatever. On the other side, when Papa can just summon Level 3 Limit breaks, Yda should have "Limit Broken" Ilberd. Would have helped a lot. Then we would have Raubahn's word vs Lolo's. Would be much more interesting.

    @ Weapon
    Well, I had one. I had many of them. I gave them (the invisible guards who were not there anyway) one and kept the others. I would never enter Uldah withou a weapon anyway. And I would not visit the Sultana without one. she summoned me as a "Warrior" and had not reason to mistrust us. The story would not happen this way, if somone had tried to take my weapons from me. It's that easy. So too bad, can't blame me, was not there at all. If you fantasize about things not in the cutscene, I do this, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    Brass Blades are all Gladiators. Tempered Will.
    That's a high class skill (Level 42) and only prevents heavy and knockback for a very short time. It does not make you immun to most CC.
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    Last edited by RobinRethiel; 04-24-2015 at 11:57 PM.

  8. #458
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Tempered will also removes bind and heavy on you when you use it.
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  9. #459
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    It does not really change anything. Of course I saw Papa's cast, but this would be part of the same trope, having a spell for Level 3 Limit Breaks, obviously cast in an instant, too, without any afford.

    And @ Ilberd. If you just make someone the leader of you group, you collect some informations about them. But sure, it is not clear yet, if Ilberd is possessed or whatever. On the other side, when Papa can just summon Level 3 Limit breaks, Yda should have "Limit Broken" Ilberd. Would have helped a lot. Then we would have Raubahn's word vs Lolo's. Would be much more interesting.

    @ Weapon
    Well, I had one. I had many of them. I gave them (the invisible guards who were not there anyway) one and kept the others. I would never enter Uldah withou a weapon anyway. And I would not visit the Sultana without one. she summoned me as a "Warrior" and had not reason to mistrust us. The story would not happen this way, if somone had tried to take my weapons from me. It's that easy. So too bad, can't blame me, was not there at all. If you fantasize about things not in the cutscene, I do this, too.


    [Tempered Will is] a high class skill (Level 42) and only prevents heavy and knockback for a very short time. It does not make you immun to most CC.
    Nobody knows what level the Brass Blades / Crystal Braves were. Probably 50, since most enemies we face nowadays are 50 or ??. The only class that has crowd control besides Bind and Heavy is Black Mage, the game can't assume you're a Black Mage, and you probably would have been interrupted before you were able to cast Sleep even if you had a weapon.

    Otherway: Your opinion is clear, you got your story in your head and that's all you want to believe, no discussion. You don't have to write it again and again to us. We already knew this.
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  10. #460
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    and you probably would have been interrupted before you were able to cast Sleep even if you had a weapon.
    Swiftcast...
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