Thread: Revelations from Patch 2.55 [SPOILERS]

Originally Posted by lilirulu

Various NPCs around the world's dialogue changes if you talk to them but Jenlyns is the most telling:

He mentions that the Sultana is ill not dead.

I feel silly doing the lvl50 CUL quest yesterday and not waiting until today to see if there are any changes.

If you speak to swift he say that no one knows that she is dead and that Raubhan got jailed (because it would cause a civil war), also a crystal brave in Ul'Dah said that our allies were emprisonned, but is he talking of some crystal braves or of Minfilia and the others ?

It makes me wonder though if Tataru thought you would die and thats the last time he would see you! Also Tataru and Urianger are still in contact if you try to talk to Tataru to play TT when its not time.

I wonder if they'll go with the poisoned yet unconscious trope? That the WoL will have a quest that finds ingredients to make an anitidote to cure her?

Somebody posted this on reddit for the i dont know if Sultana is dead, thought i would share it.

"I think she is dead, but I think Pipin will take her place. I don't think it's a coincidence that he is named similarly to Pippin so baring contradicting lore, I suspect that he is an Ul'dan Prince adopted by Rauban and concealed for his own protection."

Anybody have any lore related to Pippin?

I never post in this section (or on the forums ever, really) but I really had to echo a few things. First of all, Merlwyb and Kan-E-Senna became hugely unlikable to me through all of this. I adored Merlwyb before this. However, both of them, along with Raubahn, denied substantial aid to Ishgard. To me the denial of real assistance didn't feel necessary, it felt spiteful. Yes, Ishgard ignored the Alliance's pleas for assistance but I never expected them to be so vengeful especially when it was clear that Coerthas would be vulnerable to the Empire. Then, when Alphinaud calls them out Merlwyb basically says "you'll have my opinion or you'll gtfo." It was kind of... gross. However, after Ishgard's victory they were all too ready to act like they really did anything and to take credit as if they were real allies all along. So much respect for the GCs lost right there. Raubahn was saved a bit for me with his slicey ways. The deal was sealed when Kan-E-Senna and Merlwyb scurried out like rats off a sinking ship. They are not the leaders I thought they were and I am pretty disappointed. I hope they suffer personal consequences for their inaction.

Also, Tataru seems so shady now. I remember, during her clam-digging quest, finding it so odd that she was acting like we would never see each other again. I chalked it up to foreshadowing, but found her creepy smile to be unsettling. Between that, the numbers and the reminder of how good she is with them, and her being one of the handful of scions to leave unscathed from what went on is kind of suspicious. It may be nothing, but it wouldn't be a total shock to me if she ended up having a hand in plot.

They are more realistic than Alphinaud and they are right (and Alphinaud realized that, he must play by the rules if he wants to win, the world isn't all pink), they can't just ask their soldiers to stop what they were doing ( fighting beast tribes and protecting the city ) to help someone that never helped them when they wanted them to, they did send help, not a lot sure, but they did, the scene where they all congratulates each others for the battle of Ishgard is just politics, it's outrageous of course but at least they try to do their best for their people. Again, when they leave it's because they can't do anything to help unfortunately.

Originally Posted by lololink

They are more realistic than Alphinaud and they are right (and Alphinaud realized that, he must play by the rules if he wants to win, the world isn't all pink), they can't just ask their soldiers to stop what they were doing ( fighting beast tribes and protecting the city ) to help someone that never helped them when they wanted them to, they did send help, not a lot sure, but they did, the scene where they all congratulates each others for the battle of Ishgard is just politics, it's outrageous of course but at least they try to do their best for their people.

I agree. I found Alph's indignant attitude frankly annoying. Easy for him to be critical when he's not responsible for an entire nation. Especially given Ishgard's prior "neutrality". Trying to sell your citizens and soldiers on being the bigger person would be very difficult to put it mildly.

Originally Posted by Thrustie

I agree. I found Alph's indignant attitude frankly annoying. Easy for him to be critical when he's not responsible for an entire nation. Especially given Ishgard's prior "neutrality". Trying to sell your citizens and soldiers on being the bigger person would be very difficult to put it mildly.

And yet Limsa was all too ready to run to the Scions and Warrior of Light, on their knees begging for salvation from the wrath of the beast tribes they themselves antagonized.

I'm sorry, but why is everyone's avatar a facial expression of a character from the hilderbrand story line?