Thread: Revelations from Patch 2.55 [SPOILERS]

Originally Posted by Rannie

Again You are WRONG it HAS been addressed in the story line about being HELPLESS WITHOUT your weapon and being tied up. Mhor Dhona you are infiltrating the Castrum there to free both Minfillia, Tataru, Urianger, and Papalymo. They are ALL tied up and Urianger and Papalymo are BEGGING you to hurry up and UNTIE them so they are able to assist you with fighting. Therefore your blast on trying to blow the whole story of not having our weapons has been busted.

I don't care for Mor Dhona. It's a totally different scenario and it made sense.

But I won't discuss with you, since it is impossible. You don't argue, you just demand that it is like that.

I wouldn't use stats to justify lore because they are two separate things. However, lore-wise, SCH/SMN wouldn't be able to do jack without their books (which explains why if you were a healer you didn't try to help Nanamo, well, asides from the obvious they can't just give people an alternate path just because they were on x class).

I don't agree with having a playable unwinnable fight. Square is more than capable of showcasing a character's power in cut scenes when needed and they could have easily showed our character duking it out with Ilbred and losing. There's really no need to waste the player's time and gear durability by throwing them into a playable fight that's impossible to win just to showcase something in the story (kind of like this one guy who suggested a DPS quest that kills the player just to prove the point of how a dead DPS hinders the party). Like someone already said, you do this and people are going to cry foul over how there's a normal looking dude who can kick the WOL's butt and Raubhan's butt, yet WOL was able to stand up to the Empire's finest. We already have people complaining how their character could have easily beaten all the guards, so this idea only exasperates the problem.

Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Like someone already said, you do this and people are going to cry foul over how there's a normal looking dude who can kick the WOL's butt and Raubhan's butt, yet WOL was able to stand up to the Empire's finest. We already have people complaining how their character could have easily beaten all the guards, so this idea only exasperates the problem.

That would be fine. If Ilberd is indeed some strange mutant, something like possessed by Omega Weapon's ghost or whatever and we HAVE to flee - alright. I mean, that would be a real reason.

We try to, it does not work, because there are obviously some very dangerous powers involved - and then we lost so much time, that the Scions had to sacrifice themselves, to save us.

This would have been 10 times better.

Originally Posted by Rannie

Not just that but what would an unwinnable fight really accomplish beside most likely us being thrown in some sort of prison like Rabauhn was. If we had lost then we would have definitely been out numbered and taken. Remember he fought ilberd to give us the time to escape. Forgive my typing I'm at work and on my cellphone.

Thats why I mentioned the "to 1 hp" part. While, again using Beatrix, in IX it was basically the same as a KO cutscene wise, here it would mean more once we hit that point (either from him getting us there manually or via a very powerful skill, like say the one that sent Raubahn flying back), it would switch to cutscene mode with us being forced to retreat then since we wouldn't be able to take another hit like that. Raubahn would still end up covering our escape and things would still happen as they did, just a way I personally could see would have helped some people like the ending.

I seem to remember a similar incident in FF10.

When it comes to being captured by corrupt government, the trope is that they plan on killing you and rigging the trial

Originally Posted by myahele

I seem to remember a similar incident in FF10.

When it comes to being captured by corrupt government, the trope is that they plan on killing you and rigging the trial

Very similar, though not the same. You learned of the church's corruption in X, and so they sentenced you to death pits.

You've become a liability and the government is corrupt. There's no way to prove your innocence. Why wouldn't they imprison you for life / have you executed?