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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    I thought the Scions or someone in the scions was supposed to "get more story" to them come 3.0? I don't think they're dead, they're most likely in gaol.

    I'm a little curious. Is the fact that Ilberd isn't being brought up on charges because he confessed to people (we) consider to be untrustworthy or people who are 'supposed' to be considered untrustworthy (by Ul'dah/public.) That is, he confessed to Lolorito and corrupt Braves and Brass Blades (so we consider them untrustworthy). He confessed to Raubahn (in gaol so to the public his words are suspect), or us & Scions (who are under suspicion so our words are suspect).

    I'm of the mind Nanamo is dead. For her to not be... that scene was gut wrenching to watch when she was dying from the poison. She'd also have some shitty planning to do it and pretty much -know- it would shine suspicions on you, the WoL, the only other person in the room with you other than the handmaiden. She -knows- that it would appear bad for the WoL. Why?
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Y'shtola and Papalymo were the two I heard mentioned on the Fanfest panel. Technically though, Y'shtola's background we could learn from her sister, who I expect will move to Ishgard for the summoner quests if nothing else.

    I do think the Scions are alive though. Papalymo and Yda didn't go down in our sight. Last we saw of them they were unleashing a big attack. Plus Papalymo's talk hardly was of one about to go down. If Y'shtola and Thancred are alive I suspect it will be due to whatever reason Minfilia turned back.

    Nanamo is the only one Im pretty sure is dead. The rest though might be imprisoned. Either way they are scattered, betrayed and hunted which still puts the WoL in the worst situation s/he has been in for a long time.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Ilberd "confessed" in the presence of his master (Lololito, who would have known) and his framed enemies (Scions, who were about to be captured and thus removed from play) to enrage Raubahn into sloppy attacks.

    We weren't supposed to escape, so it wouldn't have mattered what we knew. But the WoL (who was tied up at the time) did escape, and so the Monitorists plans had to change. The people consider us to be the ultimate good, after all, and without us in custody painting us in a bad light is rather hard
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    I don't see why she would fake her own death before abdicating the throne.

    However, I believe that she was given a poison to make her unconscious indefinately
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    Dia Lancea
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I don't see why she would fake her own death before abdicating the throne.

    However, I believe that she was given a poison to make her unconscious indefinately
    See, I don't mind the Somnus/Eternal Sleep theory, as it is somehow sadder than her just dying.
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    I mentioned this in the Official spoiler thread but it hurts to much I have to share it again. I ended up getting 2 platinum cards for this last TT tournament. When I open them up, I find both cards are Nanamo cards. WHY SE WHYYYYYY? /twistthatdaggerrealgood
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    Ysera Dei-ijla
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    I don't think this has been discussed yet, but who could this person be? Blue-eyed Hyuran male in Ishgardian knight armor, standing next to Iceheart. My first thought is that maybe this is Elidibus' host, but that's more of a wild speculation :P

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    I think it's just an heretic spy, that managed to get Iceheart to the barrier so that she could break it.
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    I wonder if Ice Blue eyes are a sign of tempering from Iceheart? Similar to how the Tempered Slyphs are purple in color.
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    Mholi'to Lihzeh
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    Someone on reddit posted something interresting about the cutscene with Raubahn in the cell. Some people in the comments are dismissing it as a fake, or a bug. But, I think there might be something more to it.
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