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  1. #131
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinun View Post
    You act like RNG will never give you the card. I'll tell you what. When next Lightning Tournament comes around, if you happen to get top 3 and get Lightning and Tataru still hasn't put out then ya for you then the RNG was detrimental. But if you get her before you would from a Top 3 that only comes once every 2 months if you place on your server. SE did you a favor even with the bad RNG compared to what it was originally
    This post is so good, it should suck up every like that's on every other post in this thread.
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  2. #132
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    Nerd Master
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Solution in my opinion would be for every 100 wins (no lightning card dropped), the percent chance to drop is increased by say 3% which is not too extreme. When it does drop then the drop rate resets back to default. I am currently coming up towards 600 wins with no lightning card so in theory that would give me an increase chance to drop by 18% using that solution which is reasonable. I cannot see how anyone would be against that sort of system. It doesn't hurt those with good luck but benefits those with extreme levels of bad luck.
    RNG is still RNG, you can even be extremely unlucky with 99% chance of drop and still don't get it.

    I got my T13 weapon after 10 kills that means after 2 months and a half but what can i do about that? Nothing.
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  3. #133
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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd View Post
    RNG is still RNG, you can even be extremely unlucky with 99% chance of drop and still don't get it.

    I got my T13 weapon after 10 kills that means after 2 months and a half but what can i do about that? Nothing.
    are you unhappy about 10 runs? that isnt even a bad rate, lol
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  4. #134
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    Windklinge Wirbelwind
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    people miss the point totally. over the top rng is a bad and not fair game mechanic. and argueing that you could insted go and cheat your way to top of tournaments ROFL. you know these so called tournaments are won by people who PAY other to let em win to get more points? this still works even after newest patch. and yes its good they an option to get a tournament card outside of a tournament. i dont mind tataru having super low chances to be honest. but i mind the general overuse of the RNG in general.

    yes i got my lighting card. so what? i still say its a bad system even tough i needed few wins. just because i was lucky does not make it a good system. atleast you could spam tataru. but coil is weekly locked RNG rolls. (ok not anymore now gladly) but that was just plain stupid and wrong.
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  5. #135
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    Tri Edge
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    Marilith
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Windklinge View Post
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    No one misses the point. Her drop rate is low but it's not abysmal. Law of Averages will have some people feel like it's abysmal while others will make it feel pretty good. Her Deck and rules for alot of people will cause some losses (Key word "Some") which makes the whole procedure worse. If the card is a 1% or 5% drop rate then some people will be doing it hundreds of times with no card drop. Ya SE has a broken tournament, which is why you can get Lightning from Platinum Packs, or Tataru. But because RNG % might be low it's a problem. You yourself have just said you got Lightning. Well, if they didnt even implement this NPC and I bet they weren't going to but to appease Tournament problems, Do you know what your % would be like from tournaments? Far Lower.
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  6. #136
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    Nerd Master
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    are you unhappy about 10 runs? that isnt even a bad rate, lol
    Lol. So then why would you be pissed off on farming a npc for few days?
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    Last edited by Nerd; 04-06-2015 at 01:56 AM.

  7. #137
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    Maerdhina's Avatar
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    Khalid De'black
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 90
    So.. how are we supposed to beat a NPC with all 5 cards unique and 4-5 stars when we can have only 1 card like that in deck? That rule is utter garbage and unfair to players, giving massive advantage to NPCs. Either make the deck rule for everyone (Players AND npc) or abolish it... I can get over the "Order" rule (I liked random more).

    Triple triad gets very unfair with it
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maerdhina View Post
    So.. how are we supposed to beat a NPC with all 5 cards unique and 4-5 stars when we can have only 1 card like that in deck? That rule is utter garbage and unfair to players, giving massive advantage to NPCs. Either make the deck rule for everyone (Players AND npc) or abolish it... I can get over the "Order" rule (I liked random more).

    Triple triad gets very unfair with it
    I beat her like 600+ times so far so it is possible...no lightning card drop yet though.
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  9. #139
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    Windklinge Wirbelwind
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinun View Post
    No one misses the point. Her drop rate is low but it's not abysmal. Law of Averages will have some people feel like it's abysmal while others will make it feel pretty good. Her Deck and rules for alot of people will cause some losses (Key word "Some") which makes the whole procedure worse. If the card is a 1% or 5% drop rate then some people will be doing it hundreds of times with no card drop. Ya SE has a broken tournament, which is why you can get Lightning from Platinum Packs, or Tataru. But because RNG % might be low it's a problem. You yourself have just said you got Lightning. Well, if they didnt even implement this NPC and I bet they weren't going to but to appease Tournament problems, Do you know what your % would be like from tournaments? Far Lower.
    you dont even KNOW what comes from platinum packs nor if they are easy to get since nobody except the devs knows how much points you need to get a platinum pack from a tournament or what said pack contains. so you CANNOT know that yet. dont argue on something you dont have any proof or real info for yet.
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  10. #140
    Player Reyll's Avatar
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    Sebastian Taylor
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Welp, 697 wins and no card. Literally can't take it anymore. Either they change it or I will just do without the card. 1/697 = 0.0014347. Nothing should be like that. Ever.
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