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    WHM and SCH

    Just want to know what do you guys think! This is in Wolve's Den Point of View.
    In Wolves den, what do you guys think is harder to play? WHM or SCH?
    Which have a better chance of survival?
    In DPS's eyes, which are harder to kill?
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    Personally I find White Mage to be superior to Scholar for very few reasons.
    All of which are essentially negligible if correctly dealt with.

    1. Eos can be killed, but you can't kill a Regen.
    2. Eos can be killed, thus rendering Whispering Dawn null. Can't kill Medica II.
    3. Fluid Aura has a root effect, Aura Blast only knocks back.
    4. Repose.

    Arguably Scholar is harder to deal with because you have two targets, swiftcast Summon and Lustrates...
    But from my personal experience, I find White Mage easier to peel and easier to survive. But only that.

    Wish we had Ruin II...
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    "which is harder to play"
    a: sch, before cleric nerf, SCH still have the higher skill cap, but you rarely see SCHs bothering to do more than ruin spam
    a2: whm skillcap is dependent on team coordination, i.e: repose to force purify, reposing attunement, repose spam as a form of interrupt

    "which has a better chance of survival"
    a: whm, benedition & sacred prism > anything a SCH can do to survive triple melee burst (melee/tank/bard). Fluid aura as a reliable means of negating MRD/WAR burst.
    a2: WHM will have much higher survival rates than a SCH if played correctly where there is no BLM to force purify

    As a DPS you can keep sustained pressure much easier on a SCH as they have no reliable means to peel for themselves
    whereas a WHM is much more vulnerable when they are caught without purify / fluid aura
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    To be honest, yes, when they removed CS even in Wolves Den SCH had a bad day, but even worst is the Disease nerf for both HP healerd reduction but most of all the heavy effect.
    One of the most problematic thing as SCH is to use Eos correctly, if she can't heal you or your party, it's a loss.

    But SCH has a really good thing called Adloquioum that really make your life easier,
    if you distanced a bit your enemy, hide behind the wall and cast an adlo, after you can cast even a physics(or blizzardII then physics) while enemies attack you and maybe receive and embrace, anyway it's very risky.

    I saw a lot of very good WHM and even if I started as WHM I'm not able to use it correctly in PvP because I feel unprotected and the interruption due by attack it' really a pain.
    For that in PvP (Frontline this time) as DPS if I have to focus fire an Healer, I wouldn't mind to kill the SCH first, he just has to be stopped.
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    For utility based comps, white mage is hands down superior at peeling

    Scholars excel vs less organised teams due to the constantly availability of a small stoneskin through adlo (and therefore a tiny surecast in effect)

    Scholars also have much better vit scaling than white mages due to starting with 150% hp worth of lustrates and gaining another 75% every 60 seconds, compared to the white mage having a 5 min cooldown on benediction, so any vitality based healing they gain is much much higher than that of the white mages one trick pony
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