Are Paladins even worth it?

[Snakevudo]

Title says it all gentlemen and ladies.

After reading along the forums and watching some you-tube videos the overall feel, is that Paladins are just crap and shouldn't really be a class because they can't close to what the warrior can do. I honestly haven't had a problem with, them sure sometimes its tricky to play them. To be clear, (( because I know Paladins are 1, and two step easy )) I meant managing your mana in large mob pulls so you don't burn out of TP or mana.

My question stands, is the Paladin job worth leveling and playing in-game or should I just quit now and save myself the trouble of not being allowed into raids because of the fact my class is worthless.

[Kaitlen]

Your post is broken. Questioning the value of a Paladin?! How dare thee!

It's not worthless and as my main is a Paladin, I've never been 'turned away' from something. >.>

WAR and PLD can both be crap: It depends on the person playing it.

Edit: After the rage.

It's really up to the player on how it's played and more importantly, does the person playing that class really understand how it all works?

I'm leveling WAR right now because, well, it's easy... fast queues and I suppose it's nice to see the other side of the coin when it comes to PLD vs. WAR tanking.

When the expansion comes out, there will be some upheaval with DRK coming out... but personally, I'll never stop playing Paladin.

[Feylie]

[Ashkendor]

Title says it all gentlemen and ladies.

After reading along the forums and watching some you-tube videos the overall feel, is that Paladins are just crap and shouldn't really be a class because they can't close to what the warrior can do. I honestly haven't had a problem with, them sure sometimes its tricky to play them. To be clear, (( because I know Paladins are 1, and two step easy )) I meant managing your mana in large mob pulls so you don't burn out of TP or mana.

My question stands, is the Paladin job worth leveling and playing in-game or should I just quit now and save myself the trouble of not being allowed into raids because of the fact my class is worthless.

There aren't really any worthless classes on FFXIV. It's one of the things I love about the game after having played games with heavy class discrimination. If you enjoy playing Paladin, then stick with it. Most raid parties take one paladin and one warrior so you don't have to worry the slightest bit about being unwanted. A diverse raid party is the best raid party because of the vast array of different buffs, debuffs, and abilities offered by different classes.

Paladin is considered the easier of the two tanks to play for various reasons, including all of their defensive CD's being off the GCD and the fact that they only have one combo (Riot Blade is really only useful for mass pulls if you need Moar Flash™). Warrior requires a little more foreknowledge because of Inner Beast (one of your go-to defensive abilities) being on the GCD. Warrior has a very aggressive tanking style with a few damage reduction abilities, a lot of self-heals and a massive HP pool. Paladin is more of your classic turtle - lots and lots of abilities that reduce incoming damage including blocking with your shield and a 10 second invulnerability to just about everything.

Honestly, you're at the point where Paladin is kind of a pain in the ass to use effectively. You don't have your tanking stance yet but many DPS are starting to get their stronger abilities, making it harder to hold hate off of them. Stick with it until level 40 when you get Shield Oath and it gets much much better. I started off as a Paladin and I intend to stay as one. I've leveled up and played other classes (including Warrior) but I always come back to my Pally. ^^

[Perzeval]

Most Raidgroups would always bring both tanks. And in the case of solo tanking, some, if not many PUGs prefer Paladin over Warrior because it's hard to "suck" playing a Paladin when maintanking. You can also maintain a high level of raid awareness and call out mechanics because your rotation is, well, the most simple one out of all classes.

[Snakevudo]

Your post is broken. Questioning the value of a Paladin?! How dare thee!


Edit: After the rage.

It's really up to the player on how it's played and more importantly, does the person playing that class really understand how it all works?
I'll never stop playing Paladin.

Thanks, you are right I have tryed other classes without much want to keep playing them. Overall this is has been the best class to my taste and choice, when I was playing world of warcraft I played a warrior and enjoy it to no end. I've always enjoyed tank classes moreover the less assault driven type tank classes. Slow and steady, I was letting others outlook on the class drive my own thoughts towards it. At the end of the day your right, play what you want and be the best at it.

[Snakevudo]

Honestly, you're at the point where Paladin is kind of a pain in the ass to use effectively. You don't have your tanking stance yet but many DPS are starting to get their stronger abilities, making it harder to hold hate off of them. Stick with it until level 40 when you get Shield Oath and it gets much much better. I started off as a Paladin and I intend to stay as one. I've leveled up and played other classes (including Warrior) but I always come back to my Pally. ^^

Yeah that is another problem I was having also, I find it hard to grasp when I am always losing hate but I had the same thoughts when I looked over my spell book. Overall thank you for the feed back I will stick it out until level 40 at the very least. :]

[GeekMatt]

Both tanks are viable, WAR requires more skill in most vital situations and so you have to be able to trust your WAR. So while PLD may not be "better" it's often "preferred". I've seen WARs survive some crazy things without a healer. But on the other hand, 9 times out of 10 if my tank is a WAR and I'm WHM, my DPS is lowered because most DF WARs just drop like a rock. PLD is consistent, sturdy and predictable and so in big pulls we move faster, because I can spam Holy without my tank dying during my first cast. PLD's also my main and I've never heard of anyone not wanting one in content. You're more likely to find 2 PLDs than 2 WARs. But definitely I would prefer one of each.

You're reading some very wrong guides if they question PLD viability.

[Spoekes]

Honestly, you're at the point where Paladin is kind of a pain in the ass to use effectively. You don't have your tanking stance yet but many DPS are starting to get their stronger abilities, making it harder to hold hate off of them. Stick with it until level 40 when you get Shield Oath and it gets much much better.

This is imo the best answer for the OP, PLD is the only job that feels left behind at level 30, but winds will change to your fortune at level 40 and all your fears of PLD not being viable at level 50 are unjustified you will see.

[Eye_Gore]

Paladins are just crap and shouldn't really be a class

Well I guess I'll go take a flying leap off Madman Bridge.