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  1. #21
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    Zaraaraz's Avatar
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    Zara Ida
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by AyaneSL View Post
    Please tell me this has nothing to do with what I'm worrying about... that they are removing lvl sync just like what they are doing on CN servers ;-;
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Yes, but they also lock out of the DF for the whole day if you leave or withdraw (even once). But once again, this is on Chinese servers only (not run by Square). It also means lowbies get no exp from monster kills in dungeons if there's a high level player there.
    I really hope this never, ever, happens here. For me, that would be a reason to unsubscribe and go play something else.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by reillyblair View Post
    about time they looked at the search algorithm its been broken pretty much since release lol
    Why do you think it's broken?
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  3. #23
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    Ayane Elysion
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    If it was, it would say so in the patch notes. This simply affects matchmaking based on the features we already have for it. The Chinese servers are hosted by Shanda and they made the call to remove the lvl sync, it wasn't SE's call.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm
    Yeah you're right... I really hope so, maybe I was just worrying too much. The official account of FFXIV Shanda ver. on Chinese social network posts their interactions with Yoshida regularly and even a recent visit to JP headquarter, giving me an impression that what they do are all permitted by SE. And many Chinese players see this as an experiment on their server before SE actually decide to apply it for all the servers.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    SE, what does this mean?

    From occasionally observing "Duty Status" i strongly believe the DF already assigns you to 1 of the any 5 duties the moment you join the que. I imagine the new algorithm will move your placing to different duties based on how soon it will be ready and how long you have been in the que.

    Wait im giving too much credit.

    Most likely we wont see silly party compositions in raids where we have 4 brds in party A and 4 blms in party B and 2 sch's in party C when both party A and B have all whm healers. An algorithm to make looting less competitive for dps and favor diversity for greater stat boosts across the board.

    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    ...DF currently prioritizes diverse parties...
    LOLWAT?
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    Last edited by KaedrianLiang; 03-31-2015 at 04:15 PM.

  5. #25
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    Rhas Itiron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    If it was, it would say so in the patch notes. This simply affects matchmaking based on the features we already have for it. The Chinese servers are hosted by Shanda and they made the call to remove the lvl sync, it wasn't SE's call.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm
    They are doing that also because they have to pay by the hour(?) minute(?) to connect to the internet over there. Would you want to pay to wait in a Q for 45 minutes? I didn't think so.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang View Post
    Most likely we wont see silly party compositions in raids where we have 4 brds in party A and 4 blms in party B and 2 sch's in party C when both party A and B have all whm healers. An algorithm to make looting less competitive for dps and favor diversity for greater stat boosts across the board.
    I have seen 8 WHMs do Titan HM. I believe in miracles. However, worse comes to worst, I will accept these derped queues for all the trial shenanigans.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    Really? So higher Ilvl player just can steamroll low lvl content? If yes then I'm hope that we can choose to sync or not, because some veteran really likely to speed run and this is might be their good news. If no option then it will be newbies nightmare.
    Yes that's what they mean to "reduce difficulty for newbies": high lvl players steamroll contents to help newbies get drops and gils. However newbies will not be able to get any exp through the whole dungeon if there's someone with a lvl gap >11. And they even wrote this in preview version of patch note: if newbies really want to lvl through dungeons, they'd better use PF instead. I can see nothing but a newbies' nightmare...
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Yes, but they also lock out of the DF for the whole day if you leave or withdraw (even once). But once again, this is on Chinese servers only (not run by Square). It also means lowbies get no exp from monster kills in dungeons if there's a high level player there.
    That is communism.... Unacceptable if this system applied here, I will quit instantly.
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  9. #29
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by AyaneSL View Post
    Yes that's what they mean to "reduce difficulty for newbies": high lvl players steamroll contents to help newbies get drops and gils. However newbies will not be able to get any exp through the whole dungeon if there's someone with a lvl gap >11. And they even wrote this in preview version of patch note: if newbies really want to lvl through dungeons, they'd better use PF instead. I can see nothing but a newbies' nightmare...
    my god...this sounds like trying to solve an ant infestation with C4...
    It's really funny because a lot of the critique for the game is that it's too easy, and the majority of chinese MMOs i've played use systems that they never fully explain to the players so Wiki Magician is practically a class choice in them.
    My mind is boggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang View Post
    From occasionally observing "Duty Status" i strongly believe the DF already assigns you to 1 of the any 5 duties the moment you join the que. I imagine the new algorithm will move your placing to different duties based on how soon it will be ready and how long you have been in the que.
    Yeah, there's definitely weird stuff going on sometimes. I quite often have the DF window up while I'm doing other stuff so I can guess how long I've got until it pops, and I'm always seeing already-queued roles drop off the list.

    I'm also guessing it doesn't do a very good job at pulling from the pool of available players based on what dungeons are actually unlocked for them, as I almost never get higher-level dungeons when randoming at 50, so I don't know where all the low-level players are ending up. And then there's times when you get randomed into a low-level dungeon where all four members are synced down but nobody actually specific queued for the place. That just seems wrong.
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