Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

[myahele]

I wonder if Raubahn will go berserk and kill the monentarists (that deserves it) and the pipin will be the new Flam Marshal?

[Nagrom]

Just a thought on the matter.

I see many posts on many forums asking why we didn't just go Hulk and smash all the Brass Blades and Crystal Braves. That should be obvious, cause as it stood the best they had was an accusation from a government body nobody trusts as far as they can throw either half of Telediji. Killing the town guards on our way out would serve only to strengthen the claim of our guilt. Nevermind that outside the personal head cannon of players, the WoL has never acted in a manner that wasn't in the same cloying virtue of a golden age superhero.

To sum it up, Superman doesn't melt the faces off police/military that have come to capture him for a crime Lex Luthor framed him for.

[Matrinka]

... err... I'm having trouble formatting this as a spoiler, so... beware reading below.

Urianger is an fun one to speculate about. I don't think he's turned on the Scions. A few clues were dropped that I'm hoping I'm purring together correctly:
Urianger is in the Waking Sands. If you go back and talk to him, he says "Never again will our brethren suffer at the hands of our enemies - this I swore to myself after the Garlean raid."
Alisaie is in the Waking Sands.
Alisaie knows the secrets found in the Coil, including that of Phoenix. I have a feeling she shared that secret with Urianger, who used that primal, to spirit the rest of the Scions out of Ul'Dah, when each was about to meet certain death.
She got word of the unrest/plotting in Ul'Dah and made sure her brother, and maybe the other Scions, had a way out of the city.
Tataru is still in contact with Urianger - I'm wondering if she knew something was up, hence her suspicious behavior and searching for good luck amulets.
I'm just not ready to believe that she, or Urianger, are bad yet.

[Gilthas]

Why do people think Tataru is evil? Just because of her smile at the end her questline?

[Balipu]

... err... I'm having trouble formatting this as a spoiler, so... beware reading below.

Urianger is an fun one to speculate about.
Urianger is in the Waking Sands.
Alisaie is in the Waking Sands.
Tataru is still in contact with Urianger
I'm just not ready to believe that she, or Urianger, are bad yet.

Yes, mister holy wrangler (as Hildibrand used to call him) is probably the most interesting character in the game right now. I also don't believe that SE pulled out the "secretly and Ascian" card again. That being said it is kinda fishy. How did he know how to contact Elidibus? How did he even see Elidibus? Like I mentioned in my neat little wall of text, only those with the echo can see Elidibus. This was made clear during his introduction. Urianger is hiding quite a lot.

Why do people think Tataru is evil?

I don't get it either. But since we don't realise how many plotholes there are in the story it's probably our fault /sarcasm

[AnnaMolly]

How did he even see Elidibus? Like I mentioned in my neat little wall of text, only those with the echo can see Elidibus. This was made clear during his introduction.

I think Ascians can make themselves visible. You're also forgetting that Elidibus was "sighted" in Vesper Bay after leaving the Waking Sands, and also Moenbryda was able to see Nabrioles or whatever his name was. I think other Scions were there and saw him too. The player and Minfilia are the only mortal characters who have the Echo. It's kinda hinted at at the end of 2.4 that the Ascians' immortality and power lies within the Echo. At least, that's what I took from it.

EDIT: Another thing to point out about my Ascian Echo theory is that Nabrioles states that Lahabrea and Elidibus are from our plane of existence. It's likely they used to be people who had the Echo and "awakened" to it's full power. What I'm saying is, If you have the Echo, you can potentially become Ascian, think of it like the Force from Star Wars; a Jedi can turn to the Dark Side all the same.

[Wildsprite]

Urianger is an fun one to speculate about. I don't think he's turned on the Scions. A few clues were dropped that I'm hoping I'm purring together correctly:
Urianger is in the Waking Sands. If you go back and talk to him, he says "Never again will our brethren suffer at the hands of our enemies - this I swore to myself after the Garlean raid."
Alisaie is in the Waking Sands.
Alisaie knows the secrets found in the Coil, including that of Phoenix. I have a feeling she shared that secret with Urianger, who used that primal, to spirit the rest of the Scions out of Ul'Dah, when each was about to meet certain death.
She got word of the unrest/plotting in Ul'Dah and made sure her brother, and maybe the other Scions, had a way out of the city.
Tataru is still in contact with Urianger - I'm wondering if she knew something was up, hence her suspicious behavior and searching for good luck amulets.
I'm just not ready to believe that she, or Urianger, are bad yet.

Yes, mister holy wrangler (as Hildibrand used to call him) is probably the most interesting character in the game right now. I also don't believe that SE pulled out the "secretly and Ascian" card again. That being said it is kinda fishy. How did he know how to contact Elidibus? How did he even see Elidibus? Like I mentioned in my neat little wall of text, only those with the echo can see Elidibus. This was made clear during his introduction. Urianger is hiding quite a lot.

this is ofcourse speculation from me so take it with a grain of salt so to speak but, from the moment we meet Elidibus I get this feeling he unlike the other Asciens doesn't have it out for us. so my take is that he initiated talks with Urianger and is playing the other Asciens. maybe I'm wrong but I get this feeling Elidibus is a double agent and is on our side..

[AnnaMolly]

I get this feeling Elidibus is a double agent and is on our side..

Same here, it's a game-changer for them since we killed an Ascian, too.

[EdwinLi]

Well saw most of what happened miles away but meh it is to be expect.

Though the part that got me the most and what I did not expect was the Urianger moment. What the seven heck is going on with Urianger's side of the story!

[KodiHivaer]

Well saw most of what happened miles away but meh it is to be expect.

Though the part that got me the most and what I did not expect was the Urianger moment. What the seven heck is going on with Urianger's side of the story!

Well I can tell you this much, and this is my theory.

Urianger is P***Ywhipped and ever since moenwhatever died, he couldn't handle it and became vulnerable so that the ascians can manipulate him, that's why they're targeting him.
(Probably using a "we can bring her back" plot device, I hate plot device characters...)
It's no different than when Thancred overexerted himself and started beating himself up about being useless that caused him to be possessed.