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    It's probably been said already, but..

    Thancred's English VA was on a pod cast recently, and if I remember correctly, he said he was signed through out the upcoming expansion?

    So, it could mean Thancred is dead but the VA voices someone else. Or maybe Thancred is dead, but we see stuff through the echo? Or maybe something to do with Ascians. Or he's not at all dead.

    Which gives me hope for the others as well.

    And I was also hoping for something like.. being occasionally attacked in the streets of Ul'dah or something. But, the story is already a lot more than what I thought it would have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    So, it could mean Thancred is dead but the VA voices someone else. Or maybe Thancred is dead, but we see stuff through the echo? Or maybe something to do with Ascians. Or he's not at all dead.
    Given that the focus in the expansion is going to be primarily on Ishgard, I can't see there being a ton of scenes involving the Echo as (AFAIK) none of the Scions have had any sort of real interaction with Ishgard before 2.4. I also don't think he would be saying he was doing a significant amount of dialogue if it was just Echo flashback scenes.

    So here's hoping...


    /thisiswaymorethan10char...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    Given that the focus in the expansion is going to be primarily on Ishgard, I can't see there being a ton of scenes involving the Echo as (AFAIK) none of the Scions have had any sort of real interaction with Ishgard before 2.4. I also don't think he would be saying he was doing a significant amount of dialogue if it was just Echo flashback scenes.

    So here's hoping...


    /thisiswaymorethan10char...
    I agree. Mostly just grasping at straws as far as possibilities go. I think Kyomagi probably has it right.
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    In general I was impressed with everything that they pulled, I didn't expect a lot of that to happen (Well, Nanamo has had red flags for months), but one thing really bugged me...

    Are our characters really supposed to be that weak and powerless...and well, stupid? It was obvious something was up and yet they walked right into the trap and when the shit hits the fan they're taken captive and chased off by...Brass Blades and Crystal Braves? Seriously? I know technically we haven't been defeating Primals and Garleans and such on our own, but it kinda pisses me off to see my character, a woman who has defeated Bahamut, being handcuffed and thrown to the ground like some lowly NPC without putting up any fight or trying to help the Scions. It's just frustrating.

    Also, kinda sad they didn't set up the Au'Ra more. Yugiri just sort of appears, you look shocked for a moment then everyone moves on. I was kind of expecting at least a little set-up as to why Eorzea is going to be crawling with them come Heavensward suddenly, when they've been absent thus far.
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    Well keep in mind that...

    We did have our big mother crystal (whatever her name is) powers removed by the evil dragon and before you say "but the trial fight...." we did use some heavy weaponry and reinforcements to kill it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    Well keep in mind that...

    We did have our big mother crystal (whatever her name is) powers removed by the evil dragon and before you say "but the trial fight...." we did use some heavy weaponry and reinforcements to kill it.
    The only thing that was removed was ''the blessing of light''. Which isnt actually the power of light, but just its protection against super powerful abilities (IE: ultima)
    Not to mention lorewise you could still summon even that, if your character really wanted to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    ten characters and such~



    I thought our weakness was from whatever Midgardsormr did to us. Story wise, we haven't done a lot from between when he did that to us, and to this point. And everything we had done up to this point might have been from weak fumes left behind.

    I'm probably over looking something though.

    Yeah its not like we defeated an Ascian single-handedly in his own territory right after we lost the blessing of the light, or anything.
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    So, I'm curious...

    Anyone without a Level 50 CUL and haven't finished the CUL quests? I'm curious to see if they changed anything.
    Thatll be interesting to see.
    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    For all the people who get upset their MC can't just fight their way out of these scenarios, consider that even in i130 if you go to an instanced level 50 dungeon/scenario and pull 4-5 mobs by yourself you'll absolutely get smeared without party assistance. We may be tough, but teamwork is really what allows us to accomplish what we have. An NPC that plots to catch you alone when you're at your weakest is actually pretty realistic considering in-game mechanics.
    I dunno how lucky youve been with your groups, but ive been in situations where myself or someone else had to do just that. You know I've run in circles as a white mage before, while kiting and killing 4-5 mobs.
    Its faster as a summoner/scholar tho.

    As far as in-game mechanics go tho, how much damage do you think a brass blade sword would deal if you just stood there in your i120-i130 and just let them hit you?
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    ten characters and such~



    I thought our weakness was from whatever Midgardsormr did to us. Story wise, we haven't done a lot from between when he did that to us, and to this point. And everything we had done up to this point might have been from weak fumes left behind.

    I'm probably over looking something though.

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    Overall, the story was create but the aftermath of what happened just doesn't sit right with me. I just escaped from Ul'dah now in Coerthas then i just stroll back into Ul'dah as if nothing happened. Its funny i tried speak with the Brass Blades and Crystal Braves in Mor Dhona and one said "Oh im not allowed to take you in because of people around and can't fight in town". It would be better if at random points Brass Blades or Crystal Braves attack you randomly in Ul'dah territory. Right now it just seems a bit immersion breaking :/ But still good story. Also why the heck can Brass Blades and Crystal Braves take me down? That is just weird to me. I have killed Bahamut Prime, Primals and fought Midgardsormr but a few Brass Blades and Crystal Braves can handcuff me and put me to the floor. Ok SE ok.
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    [SPOILER]My Thoughts, i do not think any of those Scions are dead. I think they were taken in the light because they still had the blessing. They will re-appear before us sometime in 3.0[/SPOILER]

    we may get a hint on 4/11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post

    I have killed Bahamut Prime, Primals and fought Midgardsormr but a few Brass Blades and Crystal Braves can handcuff me and put me to the floor. Ok SE ok.
    In all those cases you were in a party... You didn't solo Bahamut Prime... You didn't solo primals... you didn't solo Midgardsormr... As dps you rely on tanks and healers... as tank you rely on dps and healers... and as healer you rely on dps and tanks... you were in that cutscene alone without backup. There might also have been more people around than what we could see.
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