Thread: Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

Oh, that's right. I just assumed there was a form of it you could prepare as a liquid form (like laudanum or morphine).

And now that you mention it, my earlier comment about the whole situation being a repeat of what happened to Aldis during the level 50 GLA quest made me realize - in that quest, the poison Aldis was framed with was a highly potent Ala Mhigan poison called 'Rhalgr's Bile' which apparently had been used in the past to assassinate an Ala Mhigan king, so that's a good choice as any for the substance used to frame the player this time around. In which case, it would make the possibility of her return... all the less likely then sadly.

And speaking of Aldis, it should be noted he was never officially cleared of the attempted assassination charges against him, which are technically still current (even though during the level 50 GLA quest the player uncovers evidence of his innocence, the Sacrarium ignored it as Leavold and the Alacran had bribed them an enormous amount of money to secure his conviction and execution), which doesn't bode well for us on the run facing a similar fate.

I think the Sultana may be alive. There are a few NPCs who seem to be under the impression that she's just very ill (but living), including the Captain of the Sultansworn (although he admits he hasn't been permitted to see her). It is possible he's being fed bad intel to keep the Sultansworn in check. And we know the Immortal Flames are trying to keep a lid on things to prevent everything from slipping into chaos.. but there are just too many people who have heard the rumors surrounding the Warrior of Light and the events of that party. Heck, there were plenty of witnesses who were there (and who left and survived) after everything hit the fan. So, at this point this is the worst kept secret in Eorzea, and it would be silly for the Captain of the Sultansworn (of all people) to be one of the few people still in the dark.

More importantly, I think (or perhaps I'm giving SE too much credit), is that Nanamo is still alive in at least a couple quests that can be completed post-events of the main storyline finale. I am just reluctant to believe that Square wouldn't have cleaned that up. I'm doubting they would kill a character that they're still using elsewhere in the game. It would be completely immersion breaking to finish the main storyline and then (even months or more later) participate in a side quest that has Nanamo being very much alive. It just doesn't seem like them to trust that players will understand or accept the continuity problems there.

However, if Nanamo is still alive then the continuity problem doesn't exist.

Who knows. Perhaps I'm giving the developers too much credit when it comes to the level of sloppy oddness they're willing to allow. Or perhaps 3.0 will introduce changes to these side stories which feature Nanamo as still living. All I do know is that something has to give in order for all the stories to make sense when woven together.

If she is still alive, it makes sense for the villains to lie to Raubahn. Having him lose it and commit a crime himself (so they would be justified in either killing him or imprisoning him, thus getting him out of their way) seemed to be one of their goals.

Originally Posted by Fenral

Nope. There's a bigger continuity "error" than even Nanamo's undeath: what caused Nidhogg to awaken, and how did Estinien acquire his blood? These are both events that happen during the Dragoon Job quests as a direct result of your involvement with Estinien, and yet he references them even if you haven't leveled DRG, and, more importantly, they still occur during the DRG quests even if you do them after 2.55, as if Ishgard still hasn't been attacked.

There are little errors all over the place in addition to the bigger ones, but after a point the devs have to accept that some people will end up dealing with quests out of order.

I don't feel that's of the same magnitude as the leader of Ul'dah jumping from alive to dead to alive depending on the order in which you do the quests.

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

All class, job, gathering, and crafting class quests happen in the 2.0 cycle. Nanamo's death is the 2.55 cycle. They set it up so all those happen BEFORE everything from 2.1 on. Meaning it's not a continuity error, it's that the story assumes that the players were done with all that long ago.

This is giving the player too much credit, and not something SE seems to typically do. Your typical player joining the game today and playing through the various storylines doesn't see patch 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc. They aren't coming to the forums or checking out the chronological order content was released in. To them this is just one big game with a big story, and seemingly some major continuity errors depending on the order they consume the content in.

There are plenty of ways to fix this, and the developers seem like the type not to sweep this sort of thing under the rug. That they haven't bothered to fix it can mean several things, (one of those being that Nanamo isn't really dead). Combined with some of the statements given by a few of the NPCs in the game, I tend to believe that's a strong possibility. Just an opinion, though!

I just don't want Nanamo to be dead. I'm hoping we get to go in and do something to destroy/cripple the Monatarists. Maybe then we'll get a "Save the Queen" weapon as a reward.