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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    I'm with you on that one, Garleans this, Garleans that, it shouldn't always be the Empire's fault - whenever it isn't the Ascians', anyway. I'd actually like to see more of the positive sides of the Empire soon.
    The Garleans, particularly those intent on invasion, are portrayed as Tyrants. Sure, they can be quite benevolent but they are tyrants never the less with a very strong dose of hubris.

    I do suspect however we will eventually see factions within the Garlean Empire that we can be more sympathetic to. Its just currently, outside Cid, we only see the aggressive aspect of the empire. We have seen however there are factions within Garlemald. We could see something similar to how Novv is among the Sahagan.
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    Hard to see any "positives" to an empire that wanted several city states to bow down to their will and merge with them.
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    Since the last cutscene with Lolorito I've had a personal theory that, while he ultimately took advatage of Teledji's plans, he A.) Didn't know the exact scope, and B.) Wasn't expecting him to be a GIGANTIC IDIOT and piss of Raubhan, especially not right then. Also that he may not be an evil jerk depending on what they do further in the story (still a jerk of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Since the last cutscene with Lolorito I've had a personal theory that, while he ultimately took advatage of Teledji's plans, he A.) Didn't know the exact scope, and B.) Wasn't expecting him to be a GIGANTIC IDIOT and piss of Raubhan, especially not right then. Also that he may not be an evil jerk depending on what they do further in the story (still a jerk of course).
    I get that sense too. Lolorito seems to be more for subtly taking things over rather than Teledji's outright coup. Yes, things seemed to be working towards Lolorito's plans, but NOT the way he wanted it. Had he somehow heard of Nanamo's intention to abdicate, then knowing him he would have probably tried to put his own people in enough powerful or swaying positions to be able to put himself as the first non-royal leader of Ul'dah. That in turn would allow him to mold the nation into what he wanted it to be, so... yeah.
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    Considering her personality, she probably just meant that she will be powerless and useless to really do anything and she wants you to help Raubahn since you aren't powerless and useless.
    Sure could have fooled us based on how the cutscenes played out (almost immediately following that exact scene, even)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Sure could have fooled us based on how the cutscenes played out (almost immediately following that exact scene, even)
    We become powerless because we have the law turned against us and are discredited. If we were not our standing and influence would have had a lot of pull. Nanamo's plan would have weakened the Monetarists. They pre emptively swung the the scales against us by discrediting us and removing the threat Nanamo represented to their power. They almost certainly knew her plan.
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    I have a feeling the rest of the trailer will have Nanamo's funeral in it, which is why they didn't want to show the whole trailer when they released it.

    Well I can dream at least right? (Because her death was the best thing that could happen to Raubahn's development)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    I have a feeling the rest of the trailer will have Nanamo's funeral in it, which is why they didn't want to show the whole trailer when they released it.

    Well I can dream at least right? (Because her death was the best thing that could happen to Raubahn's development)
    Mmmm... something tells me that you might be right.
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    With enough prayers (and crystals) I'm sure those loyal to her can revive her!
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    With enough prayers (and crystals) I'm sure those loyal to her can revive her!
    omg, how terrible would it be to have to fight her as Nanamo Primal battle (because you know all crystal wished 'people' are bad...)
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