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    A couple Questions

    So I'm gonna start with the easier ones and work my way down adding anymore that come to me in further posts.

    In regards to allowances, I'm seeing a lot of contradicting info on the web (3 a day, 4 a day, 3 per 12 hrs, 4 per 12 hours being the most common). So what exactly is it?

    Is there any way to get more allowances per day? There's a part two to this question coming up next!

    What am I doing wrong? So I'm taking my time (I took a week to hit my first class to 30). I have done all the starter quests in my first zone, all my class quests to level as soon as I could (Arcanist), I unlocked every leve quest area along my way, I've done as many fates as I come across, I've done my hunting log for my class keeping it up to my level. At level 28 I ran out of stuff to do. I had the choice of going to another starting zone and doing low level quests or grinding leve's. I went with the leve's I had 12 when I started and ended with 7 doing my level leve's (failed 2 and restarted). I hit 30 and started my second class and went to another newbie area grinding my hunt log and all the lowbie quests for that area, along with as many fates as I came across. I ran out of stuff to do at level 12 (unable to kill level 19 mob in my hunt log so couldn't continue with that either) I grinded a few more leve's to hit 15. All this is interspersed with rested xp as I take a 19-20 hour break between playing (work and sleep) Now I'm starting my summoner and I worrey I don't really have anything left with which to grind the next three classes with other then fates and leve's. I want to try Black Mage, Summoner, and Dragoon, but I'm not sure how to keep leveling up as I simply don't get enough allowances to keep going. A little research online tells me everything I'm doing should be FAR more then enough to level my chosen classes up but it just doesn't seem to be enough and now I have nothing left and still have 3 classes to level to get my jobs.

    Reading online the best way to level crafting and gathering profs is leve quests is this true? If so should I avoid spending anymore on generic quests and save them for my chosen professions (Botany, Fishing, Alchemy, Cooking)?
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Leves are among the best ways to level crafting and gathering, but they're not as good for leveling combat classes. Dungeons are your best XP source for combat classes, with FATEs and your hunting log to fill the time while you're waiting in queue for them. (Quests are good, too, but I don't recommend doing them while waiting in queue, since you can miss the DF pop if you're in the middle of dialog.)

    Your level sounds like an odd place to be running out of content, though. Are you behind in the Main Scenario quest line? A lot of stuff gets unlocked by that, so you can run out of other things to do if you fall too far behind there.
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    I haven't touched any of the side quests in the game to level, and I have three 50s and a 40. You're not supposed to grind levequests on battle classes - if you aren't going to do dungeons, then you'll have to grind FATEs. You should be grinding in Costa Del Sol (Eastern La Noscea) from 30-35, and then Coerthas from 35-50 (Northern Thanalan used to be great for FATE grinding 40/45-50 before the nerf* but absolutely no one does FATEs there anymore). However, I didn't need to do this very much until the last 5 levels because of dungeons and the main story quest - the MSQ gives a lot of experience and dungeons are the best way to level.

    *FATEs used the be the best way to level until they modified them (their difficulty now depends on how many people did them last time it was up, so they take a long, long time if people zerg them like before), levequests quickly become useless (you can do FATEs for the same amount of exp in the same amount of time), quests run out quickly, and dungeons give a lot of experience, plus there's going to be level 50s running them for their relic weapons so you'll have help (even though you may come across some bad eggs who just want to get out because it's a low level dungeon)

    As a dps, the most efficient thing to do is to queue for a level appropriate dungeon, and then go do FATEs or hunting logs because you'll be waiting at least 15-30 minutes.

    You get 3 allowances every 12 hours. 6 allowances per day.

    Levequests are extremely useful for leveling crafters and gatherers. But you don't need to worry too much about running out of them once you're doing other things to level battle classes - in a couple weeks of not doing levequests, you'll be sitting at 100 allowances being unused.
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    Last edited by Keydah; 03-31-2015 at 03:04 AM.
    There is no apostrophe in Au Ra.
    Stop adding one three years later.

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    If you haven't started them yet I'd suggest going through the guildhests at least once with each class. You get nice xp bonuses and they don't take very long to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sciondar View Post
    If you haven't started them yet I'd suggest going through the guildhests at least once with each class. You get nice xp bonuses and they don't take very long to do.
    Yes! That too. The guildhests give a big bonus the first time you do them on each class and only take 3-5 minutes tops. You also need to have done them all up to 30 or 35 at some point in the level 50 main story.
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    There is no apostrophe in Au Ra.
    Stop adding one three years later.

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    I've done the main story up to my level (30) and can't take anymore until I level again. I have done each instance only once (I know this can use some improvement). Are guild hest's another word for quild quests? Because I've been doing those that's how I unlocked summoner :P From what you guys say I'm doing pretty much everything right. I can't figure out why it's not working. I've done every sidequest I can find up to lvl 30 and have several I can't turn in yet because of level. My guild keeps telling me the hunting log is the best way to level lowbie classes but at level 12 I'm up against level 19 mobs and obviously can't continue with that
    Now I'm working on my third class (Lancer) and have no quests left to do I'm level 12 and can't queue for dungeons, my hunt log is done as much as I can currently, I have no sidequests left at all till mid 20's and I guess I'm going to be saving my allowances for gathering and crafting proffs. So what the heck do I do? Just grind fates forever?
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    If you've gone through every side quest you should have access to the challenge log which will grant bonus xp for meeting certain requirements. Try tackling those each week. They might help make the difference you need in what you're doing. The guildhests are found in your duty finder list under trials I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obeliske View Post
    I have done each instance only once (I know this can use some improvement).
    Do the Duty Roulette. It gives you a random dungeon from among the ones you've already done (well, not entirely random, as it's usually whichever dungeon someone else specifically queued for, so that you can help fill in the rest of their group), and not only do you get the high level of mob-kill XP that all the dungeons have, but once a day you get an extra XP (and GC Seal) bonus at the end. (Well, sometimes it can put you in a primal Trial instead of a full dungeon. In that case, you don't get much mob-kill XP, but you still get the completion bonus, so still worthwhile.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obeliske View Post
    Are guild hest's another word for quild quests?
    No. Guildhests are duties (and not found under Trials, they have their own area):



    Unlocked on completion of the quest Simply the Hest (Limsa Lominsa) found in Swiftperch, Western La Noscea; Simply the Hest (Ul'dah) found in Horizon, Western Thanalan; or Simply the Hest (Gridania) found in Bentbranch Meadows, Central Shroud. You get a bonus on each class you do them on for the first time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Do the Duty Roulette. It gives you a random dungeon from among the ones you've already done (well, not entirely random, as it's usually whichever dungeon someone else specifically queued for, so that you can help fill in the rest of their group), and not only do you get the high level of mob-kill XP that all the dungeons have, but once a day you get an extra XP (and GC Seal) bonus at the end. (Well, sometimes it can put you in a primal Trial instead of a full dungeon. In that case, you don't get much mob-kill XP, but you still get the completion bonus, so still worthwhile.)
    Seconded. If you aren't going to dungeon farm for exp, at least do one each day through the roulette.

    Your options are pretty much dungeon grind or FATE grind, once you're out of leves and quests. FATE grinding is boring and kinda slow, but it's the same pace as levequests, and you're still doing the same things repeatedly like you would be picking up all the area's levequests over and over. Dungeons are fastest and least boring/grindy way of leveling.
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    Last edited by Keydah; 03-31-2015 at 05:02 AM.
    There is no apostrophe in Au Ra.
    Stop adding one three years later.

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    OHHHH those things! Yeah I've done those each once each as well.

    I realized this morning I aught have been doing the roulette :P random daily dungeon is something I'm gonna have to start doing every day.

    The challenge log... I think I read about that in one of the tutorials I'm sure I can find it but what exactly is it? and is it worth grinding?

    Also as a side question is there a /played command ingame? Something that tells you the age of your character and how long you've been playing that one?

    Also back when I first started the toon I read something about an achievement vendor having all my titles and stuff like that where do I find him?
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    Last edited by Obeliske; 03-31-2015 at 05:02 AM.

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