"Future content will be heavily instanced" ...not sure i like it...

[Zanfire]

when they said instanced it didn't mean dungeons where you don't see anyone. Sure there will be more dungeon but leves/behests are instanced and yet you see the people doing it.

NM pop with items could be instanced so only the group fighting it can fight it and outsiders can watch them if they want.

Campain/besieged? You will like hamlet defense, pretty sure they will be something of the like.

My feeling of them saying instanced is the oposite of what you have here, i REALLY hope they mean stuff will be done out in the open, but thats what comes to mind when they say that, everyone plays in their own worlds most of the time....which would be a HUGE bummer.

Has anyone not enjoyed running by somewhere and watching a group take down a giant monster out in the open (or watch them die a horrible death lol), stuff like that needs to happen and hopefully they will make use of the new spaces they design.

btw...wth happened with hamlet defense? they talked about it a long time ago and we have not heard a peep about it in forever. Did they just scrap it?

[Perrin_Aybarra]

My feeling of them saying instanced is the oposite of what you have here, i REALLY hope they mean stuff will be done out in the open, but thats what comes to mind when they say that, everyone plays in their own worlds most of the time....which would be a HUGE bummer.

Has anyone not enjoyed running by somewhere and watching a group take down a giant monster out in the open (or watch them die a horrible death lol), stuff like that needs to happen and hopefully they will make use of the new spaces they design.

btw...wth happened with hamlet defense? they talked about it a long time ago and we have not heard a peep about it in forever. Did they just scrap it?

No they have not scraped it ^^ while not having a lot of info this was in the producer letter XVI :

Missions catering to higher levels are scheduled for patch 1.20. Caravan escort will pave the way for the upcoming hamlet defense content.

Also, if it makes you feel better, I am pretty much 95% sure that when they say instanced content it doesn't mean in a seperate instance where others can't see you (like dungeons).

leves(all kind), behest, story/class missions and a lot of quests, all these things are instanced where only you and your group can see the mobs until they are claimed but other people still see you and see you fighting the mobs once the fight is started.

[Okiura]

Having most thing instanced sounds like a bad idea to me. but then i started thinking why does it sound like a bad idea and is it really such a bad thing?

So after a bit of thinking i came up with just about as many bad points as good. one the biggest problems i thought of (and this is just IMO) is the comunity will suffer, i know the argument is there that you aim to set up a group before you head out and that's true quite often and i can't fault that.

But when i was playing XI i met many people in my travels who happenend to doing the same quests as me at the same time and a {team up?} request turned into a new friendship, infact some of my better friendships started this way. these were the kinda quests that are able to be completed solo and a waste of time for anyone who was not on, or had already completed to do it with you. so bumping into random ppl is a good thing as it's more fun to do things with other players in a online game.

if we all palyed in our own little bubbles this could never happen, and IMO that'll be my biggest issue. now if will this even become a issue or not guess only time will tell this all depends on the type of instanced content that being planned and not included yet, though i can give one example that is already in the game and that is the main region quests.

another problem though this isn't all that bad is you won't be able to watch random fights in your travels, it's good to actually see how another group does somthing and how well it works for them. this happened alot in ffxi when my LS was doing HNM's a few members of other LS's would turn up to see how we handled it and a few of our members whould turn up view other LS's take them down too. this is a good way to learn how to do things diffrent and refine you're own tactic's.

As long as SE watches what content they make instances/open world, and try to keep a helthy ballance between the two i don't see a real issue atm. i do share some of the OP's concerns but i think i'll remain on the fence for now pending more info

[Arcell]

when they said instanced it didn't mean dungeons where you don't see anyone. Sure there will be more dungeon but leves/behests are instanced and yet you see the people doing it.

NM pop with items could be instanced so only the group fighting it can fight it and outsiders can watch them if they want.

Campain/besieged? You will like hamlet defense, pretty sure they will be something of the like.

Also more faction NMs, those are technically instanced. Others can see them but they can't participate unless they're in the party as it's technically a leve. With how they currently have the factions set up I was always counting on seeing more of the NMs.

[Eekiki]

Quote from Yoshi: a dev responce to the new claiming system thread.

Im all for having instanced content, but im also not so fond of having the game be mostly instanced, the main reason being the giant disconnect between not only the world, but the players. I really hope they dont make only scattered NMs the only open world content, i dont want this game to turn into a hub game leaving the world almost empty because there is little reason to use it. It seems like he wants to avoid the claiming system from being an issue by devoiding the game of open content.

Things like NMs, HNMs, Eco Warrior, besieged, campaign and even most of abyssea were all great open world things that made being in the world with others worth while. I really hope stuff like those things make it in to this game in some form...or just anything that has you going about and interacting with strangers.

Again instances are great, but to make it be the dominate thing by far will hurt one of the big things that worked SO well in FFXI, the sense of community.

Eco Warrior was essentially a guildleve. Those aren't going anywhere.

Roaming NMs aren't going anywhere, and Yoshi has already said when talking about the changes to the claim system that they were still going to be a part of the game.

Besieged and Campaign are kind of the same thing. And yeah, I'd like to see something like that added to XIV.

But look at the stuff in XI that was instanced: Dynamis, Salvage, Einherjar, Assault, Limbus. No one had a thing to say about them. Why? Because the term "Instanced" wasn't used to describe them?

This irrational fear of anything that even reminds people of the existence of WoW is getting ridiculous.

[Seif]

Eco Warrior was essentially a guildleve. Those aren't going anywhere.

Roaming NMs aren't going anywhere, and Yoshi has already said when talking about the changes to the claim system that they were still going to be a part of the game.

I'm sorry this is totally random but Eco Warrior is not leve-like it's a Taru-massacare of horrific proportions!

Show me one leve that is as challenging or needs as much planning to pull off. Leves are sing and dance-time with happybears compared to the brutally cruel Eco Warrior. I was one of the 3 people out of 15 players who completed the quest in my group and that's only because I fled like the wind when everybody else started dying left and right.

[Lyndis]

With a seamless world like FFXIV: We NEED open world content.

People complain about the blandness of the areas. What happens when you add a truely NOTORIOUS monster to it. One that people know and have heard of, because it's incredibly powerful and rare. Give us a place like King Behemoth's dominion where new people hear the name and venture there with rumors of a giant beast. Give us a place like Ulegerand range where I climb a tough mountain to find a massive dragon that takes up my entire screen when I get close enough to see it.

It's true that most of FFXI's stuff was instanced too, so I'm not that worried. But it was the LEGENDS the stalked the open world that were truly amazing. Make the world I can explore interesting.

[Sephr]

Considering we have such vast open areas, it would be great to see things like giant adamantoise roaming etc. Would certainly make the world feel alive, though they'd have to be pretty damn tough to kill.

[Zanfire]

With a seamless world like FFXIV: We NEED open world content.

People complain about the blandness of the areas. What happens when you add a truely NOTORIOUS monster to it. One that people know and have heard of, because it's incredibly powerful and rare. Give us a place like King Behemoth's dominion where new people hear the name and venture there with rumors of a giant beast. Give us a place like Ulegerand range where I climb a tough mountain to find a massive dragon that takes up my entire screen when I get close enough to see it.

It's true that most of FFXI's stuff was instanced too, so I'm not that worried. But it was the LEGENDS the stalked the open world that were truly amazing. Make the world I can explore interesting.

i really did love how FFXI set up some of their HNMs. They would put it in odd places or in spots you had to actually venture out to get to, through areas with tough monsters. Going through the back end of crawlers nest to see Simmurg or getting past the weight gates with undead all around to get to Roc. People would test their luck and dodging agro skills just to go see some of these monsters and it was a really neat thing.

[Reinheart]

With a seamless world (wut? lol j/k) like FFXIV: We NEED open world content.

People complain about the blandness of the areas. What happens when you add a truely NOTORIOUS monster to it. One that people know and have heard of, because it's incredibly powerful and rare. Give us a place like King Behemoth's dominion where new people hear the name and venture there with rumors of a giant beast. Give us a place like Ulegerand range where I climb a tough mountain to find a massive dragon that takes up my entire screen when I get close enough to see it.

It's true that most of FFXI's stuff was instanced too, so I'm not that worried. But it was the LEGENDS the stalked the open world that were truly amazing. Make the world I can explore interesting.

If they adding HNM's hope they do it FF13 style open field mobs... I loved the graphics, hated the overall system but the FF13's open field map with the humongous monsters roaming around the world... that was truly amazing. HNM's needs to be that big LOL