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  1. #51
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    Abauge_Goga's Avatar
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    Abauge Decebalus
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    I played FFXI for 5 years and loved every second of it. I was also single at the time. That meant I could play every day for as long as I wanted, and still couldn't keep up with everything FFXI had to offer.

    The issue right now is that FFXIV can't please both types of crowds. You have the older me type that has a lot of time to play and you have the actual me type, with a family and kids and a full time job.

    I think, with time, FFXIV will end up pleasing both groups, and have the HNM which we all love or the instanced raids which some don't like.

    In my opinion, as long as they introduce new content every time suitable to both types, people will keep playing.

    Meanwhile, I am sure the arguments on the forums will never cease.
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  2. #52
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    Au Rore
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    I have 2 thoughts to this subject.

    In FFXI, when ZNM's were introduced, that system was my ABSOLUTE favorite. Yes, earning points to buy pops was a chore of a process at times, but the actual system itself was perfect. The rewards were pretty impressive, and you had a 100% shot at claim of your NM because you spawned it.

    Other note I wanted to make was, being new to XIV, when I did my first leve and noticed the enemies spawn from my leve JUST for me, and I didn't have to fight for claim was really impressive. I don't play many MMO's so with that said this was new to me and I really like this system.

    Instanced does not have to be something that loads you into a different zone. I can see the feeling of disconnect from that. But rather it can be in the open world with exclusive claim to you and your group. I have no problem with this whatsoever.
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  3. #53
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    Rand Al'thor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    You have no grounding to back up the fact that 'heavily instanced' doesn't mean specifically dungeons and raids, and considering that's the vast majority of what we're getting content-wise in 1.19, 1.20 and 1.21 I think it's justified to say otherwise.

    I don't think the debate has to stop, it's very worthwhile for the dev team to see all opinions on the matter, so could people please stop talking as if their side is superior and trying to shut everyone else down?
    I am not saying I have the absolute truth, but people here reads too much into it and jump to premature conclusions. And let's look at the game in it's current state when it comes to instanced content.

    What is instanced in FFXIV:

    Some Quests
    Story Missions
    Class specific quests
    Leves
    Faction NM
    Behest
    Dungeons

    All the is that is non instanced is NMs and some quests.

    Now here is the quote in its entirety from Yoshi:

    Also, instances will become more prevalent in future content. The concept of having to claim opponents to prevent being disturbed by other players becomes less and less relevant, so we decided that claiming is unnecessary.
    He said that to back up his claiming system changes. Since most of the events that matters are instanced, claiming rights lose weight in the big picture of things when you consider everything that is currently instanced and since most things are instanced and will continue to be so, this is why instanced =/= dungeons.

    yes in the tables we see more dungeons, of course we see more dungeons they need to put more of them. 2 dungeons is a joke. Things like caravan escort, primal fights, addional company quests/missions, additonal story quests/missions, additional quests, all these things will most likely be instanced. Are they exclusively dungeons? no. get a clue.

    Before trying to say I (and others) pull these things out of thin air, maybe you should stop and think about it before posting.

    Edit: so yeah, I maintain my position about heavily instanced game =/= exclusively dungeons while it does include them in the statement. Until a rep comes in and say: "sorry guys, FFXIV will be dungeons only with cities acting as hubs" then your, and so many other people, reaction is unbased.
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    Last edited by Perrin_Aybarra; 09-02-2011 at 01:52 AM.

  4. #54
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    i would love a straight answer from the mods about the future of endgame and the direction it will be going.
    main 2 questions i have that has been killing me to know so i can understand if i'm wasting my time or not.

    1. will we have large full linkshell endgames and when?
    2. will we have full party mission battles and when?
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  5. #55
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    I like for them to answer weebles questions to and just balance out the content for both to appease all the crying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Until a rep comes in and say: "sorry guys, FFXIV will be dungeons only with cities acting as hubs" then your, and so many other people, reaction is unbased.
    Grats! You just won most ridiculous statement ever!
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    i would love a straight answer from the mods about the future of endgame and the direction it will be going.
    main 2 questions i have that has been killing me to know so i can understand if i'm wasting my time or not.

    1. will we have large full linkshell endgames and when?
    2. will we have full party mission battles and when?
    While I see the interest in knowing that information, the content you are requesting could either be instanced or non-instanced and I am pretty sure the answer to both is yes. What MMO doesn't plan on having large-scale endgame events for the linkshells? Party missions battles are also probably in the work (primal fights?).

    Like I said, I get why you want to know this but it's not really related to content being "heavily instanced" since it doesn't prevent either of your request to happen.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exni View Post
    Grats! You just won most ridiculous statement ever!
    thanks ^^ where's my prize!?

    I don't see how it is so riddiculous, I was merely over-mimicking people's reaction who think that having instanced content means the death of the outside world. Sorry if my humour doesn't reach you.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    thanks ^^ where's my prize!?
    You gain a Golden cookie
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    An Aware, Informed, and Critical community is vital for the success of a game.
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  10. #60
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    Zanfire Leoz
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    While I see the interest in knowing that information, the content you are requesting could either be instanced or non-instanced and I am pretty sure the answer to both is yes. What MMO doesn't plan on having large-scale endgame events for the linkshells? Party missions battles are also probably in the work (primal fights?).

    Like I said, I get why you want to know this but it's not really related to content being "heavily instanced" since it doesn't prevent either of your request to happen.
    right now we cant do any form or alliance so its hard to tell, though i could have sworn there was an interview that got translated that said something about they want to later add big group activities and endgame. If i find it il post it up...but im almost 100% sure i saw that.

    now how long that will take to come is a whole other ballgame, i dont think this game will be in decent enough shape to even start charging until next fall easy. They still have so much to do and they are definitely not a fast bunch when it comes to getting patches out.
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