"Future content will be heavily instanced" ...not sure i like it...

[TirionCrey]

I'm sick of all these people having no f**cking clue about MMOs and MMO mechanics...instances are a system mostly used for endgame activities, cause it's just not "fun" to compete against other people over something as stupid as "who claims first".

Compete for skill and make fights challenging enough so skill actually matters.

I'm literally being annoyed by everyone here on these forums...90% of the people are unable to think before posting and this forum has become a far worse troll camp, then ZAM has ever been...

[Sephr]

I'm sick of all these people having no f**cking clue about MMOs and MMO mechanics...instances are a system mostly used for endgame activities, cause it's just not "fun" to compete against other people over something as stupid as "who claims first".

Compete for skill and make fights challenging enough so skill actually matters.

I'm literally being annoyed by everyone here on these forums...90% of the people are unable to think before posting and this forum has become a far worse troll camp, then ZAM has ever been...

Chill out, it's not worth getting that annoyed over.

A lot of people don't like the WoW/Rift style of endgame because it removes the need to visit areas of the world outside of instances AND because it's been done to death, and I think that's a totally justified arguement. Having open world content doesn't necessarily equate to competition with others, have you seen *anything* about guild wars 2 at all? That game has a huge amount of overworld content coming and no competition whatsoever.

But no, you're right, just get pissed off and insult people because that's the better approach.

People need to get that in their head : Instanced content =/= closed dungeons

You could very well have a public dungeon where the "boss" is poped with an item you find and this boss is "instanced" so that when you pop it only the party members can attack it. That's instanced content as well as dungeons.

Can this thread stop now? Heavily instanced =/= only dungeons/raids ala WoW. It just means content that only you and your party will be able to see/attack (like it is right now with behest/leves) regardless if it's in the open world or not.

You have no grounding to back up the fact that 'heavily instanced' doesn't mean specifically dungeons and raids, and considering that's the vast majority of what we're getting content-wise in 1.19, 1.20 and 1.21 I think it's justified to say otherwise.

I don't think the debate has to stop, it's very worthwhile for the dev team to see all opinions on the matter, so could people please stop talking as if their side is superior and trying to shut everyone else down?

[Perrin_Aybarra]

You have no grounding to back up the fact that 'heavily instanced' doesn't mean specifically dungeons and raids, and considering that's the vast majority of what we're getting content-wise in 1.19, 1.20 and 1.21 I think it's justified to say otherwise.

I don't think the debate has to stop, it's very worthwhile for the dev team to see all opinions on the matter, so could people please stop talking as if their side is superior and trying to shut everyone else down?

I am not saying I have the absolute truth, but people here reads too much into it and jump to premature conclusions. And let's look at the game in it's current state when it comes to instanced content.

What is instanced in FFXIV:

Some Quests
Story Missions
Class specific quests
Leves
Faction NM
Behest
Dungeons

All the is that is non instanced is NMs and some quests.

Now here is the quote in its entirety from Yoshi:

Also, instances will become more prevalent in future content. The concept of having to claim opponents to prevent being disturbed by other players becomes less and less relevant, so we decided that claiming is unnecessary.

He said that to back up his claiming system changes. Since most of the events that matters are instanced, claiming rights lose weight in the big picture of things when you consider everything that is currently instanced and since most things are instanced and will continue to be so, this is why instanced =/= dungeons.

yes in the tables we see more dungeons, of course we see more dungeons they need to put more of them. 2 dungeons is a joke. Things like caravan escort, primal fights, addional company quests/missions, additonal story quests/missions, additional quests, all these things will most likely be instanced. Are they exclusively dungeons? no. get a clue.

Before trying to say I (and others) pull these things out of thin air, maybe you should stop and think about it before posting.

Edit: so yeah, I maintain my position about heavily instanced game =/= exclusively dungeons while it does include them in the statement. Until a rep comes in and say: "sorry guys, FFXIV will be dungeons only with cities acting as hubs" then your, and so many other people, reaction is unbased.

[Exni]

Until a rep comes in and say: "sorry guys, FFXIV will be dungeons only with cities acting as hubs" then your, and so many other people, reaction is unbased.

Grats! You just won most ridiculous statement ever!

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Grats! You just won most ridiculous statement ever!

thanks ^^ where's my prize!?

I don't see how it is so riddiculous, I was merely over-mimicking people's reaction who think that having instanced content means the death of the outside world. Sorry if my humour doesn't reach you.

[Griss]

thanks ^^ where's my prize!?

You gain a Golden cookie