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    ChiefCurrahee's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    actually you left out stuff like ZNMs, besieged, campaign,
    Besieged and campaign aren't really end game events. You could bring a level 50 character into campaign but not receive full credit til lv 70 i think. and Besieged I don't think there were any restrictions.
    ZNM is basically instanced content in open world. You buy pop items to spawn a NM which you gain a item to pop the next tier and so on and so on.

    The end game that counts, that a ton of time players spend in were instanced. Dynamis 3 hours 2 days a week, Limbus ~1.5 hours 2 days a, Nyzul Isle assault ~2hrs once a week.

    Spent about 3-4 hours in sky each week and same in sea. But unlike the above instanced events how often in sky/sea were you farminf for pop items or waiting for that NM to spawn, a long with several other LS?

    I don't want all things in this game to be instanced. But I also don't want to sit around for hours to to see another LS claim that NM we need to progress our end game... It's not fun anymore.
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    Liked. Not even gonna get into why as I've mentioned it in a number of other posts already.
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    We'll still have an open world, people will still use the open world. I'm sure they'll continue to develop content for the open world such as more beastman encampments/fortresses. They'll have to open up the cities we don't have access to yet too and populate those areas with enemies and side quests.
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    What a surprise, someone doesn't like something that isn't even implemented yet.
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    Kai Ulric
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    I'm perfectly fine with it, even if you go into an instance you still have to get a group together and work together as a team. I don't see how it would hurt the community other than people can't be stealing stuff or trying to MPK you and get you to die so they can get the mobs.
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    I'm just a bun boy, doing bun boy things.

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    Even though its heavily instanced you still have to get to that area where the instance will start so I don't see any problem with this, making it instanced will give everyone more chance to have fun rather than specific group always doing the same thing or taking over a spot over period of time.

    As next gen MMO I think it's the right direction for this game, but like mentioned in other thread I think it's also OK to still leave room for open world content for some things, it's up to the players to take part in it or not, if you don't like instanced then just don't do it, same as if they do release some open world content if you don't like how it plays out, just don't do it.

    For me personally I would like to participate and I am probably going to face situations where I can't because of the hours I play and stuff but I don't expect the devs to make it possible for me or few people like me, I understand there are others that has time to do more stuff. Dev's are going to make contents available for both hardcore/heavy players and casual players, don't expect them to release both content at same time every time. There may be time it's content for hardcore/heavy players and other times it's contents for casual players. Can't complain when the content isn't always for your play style.
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    open world thing can have an "instanced" feel, i mean more along the lines of having be out in the public, in different nooks and crannys of the zones. Even if it involves popping a monster with a quest item, if its done out in the open you get that sense of it being in the world, instead of people dissapearing into their own. Things like campaign were a great idea IMO because not only could you do it solo or in a small or large group, but you always felt like you were part of a giant team where anyone could jump in. Its things like that which give me the feel of the world being used.

    The one thing i really liked about abyssea was that it was fully open, you could jump into different events and they were all out in the open to do, things you could join, things you could watch others do and things you competed over.

    I just hope they make it so it feels like the zones have life and that not half the people are in their own area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyDisco View Post
    What a surprise, someone doesn't like something that isn't even implemented yet.
    Not *really* the same, is it? As opposed to an individual idea that can be tweaked and changed, this is a general plan for a large proportion of content in the future, if not all endgame.

    Good job regurgitating what someone said in the logical place, but your application is a bit off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    open world thing can have an "instanced" feel, i mean more along the lines of having be out in the public, in different nooks and crannys of the zones. Even if it involves popping a monster with a quest item, if its done out in the open you get that sense of it being in the world, instead of people dissapearing into their own. Things like campaign were a great idea IMO because not only could you do it solo or in a small or large group, but you always felt like you were part of a giant team where anyone could jump in. Its things like that which give me the feel of the world being used.

    The one thing i really liked about abyssea was that it was fully open, you could jump into different events and they were all out in the open to do, things you could join, things you could watch others do and things you competed over.

    I just hope they make it so it feels like the zones have life and that not half the people are in their own area.
    when they said instanced it didn't mean dungeons where you don't see anyone. Sure there will be more dungeon but leves/behests are instanced and yet you see the people doing it.

    NM pop with items could be instanced so only the group fighting it can fight it and outsiders can watch them if they want.

    Campain/besieged? You will like hamlet defense, pretty sure they will be something of the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    when they said instanced it didn't mean dungeons where you don't see anyone. Sure there will be more dungeon but leves/behests are instanced and yet you see the people doing it.

    NM pop with items could be instanced so only the group fighting it can fight it and outsiders can watch them if they want.

    Campain/besieged? You will like hamlet defense, pretty sure they will be something of the like.
    This is exactly what I'm thinking when they say instanced.
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