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  1. #1
    Player
    Aerowaffle's Avatar
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    Isaac Direstone
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KotaroFuma View Post
    Actually, this game requires a lot of grinding... now I'm not advocating usage of bots here, but for some people who have a job it would take ages. Teens come home from high school and hit up their PC right away, adults have more responsibilities. What is actually the downside to this, other than that they can level up to join in on the epic endgame content this game has to offer? As I said, I'm not supporting botting, but I do understand why some would choose to do it, just want to discuss this issue.
    MMOs, this one included, try to alleviate that inequality of game time a bit by having the daily roulettes, weekly drop cap from WoD, weekly hunt mark, etc. Things that are gated by real time helps the people who don't have much time to spend on ffxiv per day by allowing them to advance their character quite a bit for the time they spend.
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    Twivana's Avatar
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    Twintanias Vengeance
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    Malboro
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KotaroFuma View Post
    Actually, this game requires a lot of grinding... now I'm not advocating usage of bots here, but for some people who have a job it would take ages. Teens come home from high school and hit up their PC right away, adults have more responsibilities. What is actually the downside to this, other than that they can level up to join in on the epic endgame content this game has to offer? As I said, I'm not supporting botting, but I do understand why some would choose to do it, just want to discuss this issue.
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    Discordia's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Mio Kuromi
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by KotaroFuma View Post
    Actually, this game requires a lot of grinding... now I'm not advocating usage of bots here, but for some people who have a job it would take ages. Teens come home from high school and hit up their PC right away, adults have more responsibilities. What is actually the downside to this, other than that they can level up to join in on the epic endgame content this game has to offer? As I said, I'm not supporting botting, but I do understand why some would choose to do it, just want to discuss this issue.
    I have a job. I work full time and will work more hours than I would care to (weekends). Sometimes I don't play this game for days, weeks and last year, for months. Still didn't stop me from having 3 DoW to 50, all crafts and gathering to 50 on a new character when I had a Legacy character I could've just used. You just need to commit yourself a few hours a week and not worry about what other players are doing. Just sit back and relax and enjoy.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Discordia View Post
    I have a job. I work full time and will work more hours than I would care to (weekends). Sometimes I don't play this game for days, weeks and last year, for months. Still didn't stop me from having 3 DoW to 50, all crafts and gathering to 50 on a new character when I had a Legacy character I could've just used. You just need to commit yourself a few hours a week and not worry about what other players are doing. Just sit back and relax and enjoy.
    Indeed. Also, unless you as a player wish to participate in the end-game content, which is largely optional, you don't even have to worry too much about grinding everything to 50 etc, just play what you enjoy. There is so much content in this game aside from the MSQ and coils/EX primals, if you take your time, it's really hard to run out of things to do.
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    Jormungand's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Immortal Guy
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I had a slight idea to make it so it's tougher for gil sellers to spam, though it's more or less a temporary block.

    Make it so they cannot whisper, or add someone to your friend list until they get to level 10. Unless they are already on your friend list, or are in your FC. As for the friend list, the only way to add someone while being under 10, is to be added by someone who is already over on one of their classes.
    Most honest players who have only just started playing the game already resort to /say and /shout for communication as well as talk in FC or Linkshells. This really wouldn't hinder people, and would instead hinder gil spammers.

    The effort required to log in with a character, level it up to begin spamming, only to be forced to delete that character and do it again to resume spamming would incur more losses than gains for advertising.
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    Avenger's Avatar
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    Coriander Silverflame
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    For months now the same chars (from same FC) have been standing in the same place, not moving, and fighting the same things over and over by casting. Strange way to play the game.

    The surprising thing was last night they were lying there dead instead - I wonder if some game mechanic changed or if their positioning was off for some reason.
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    Twintanias Vengeance
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    Malboro
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    For months now the same chars (from same FC) have been standing in the same place, not moving, and fighting the same things over and over by casting. Strange way to play the game.

    The surprising thing was last night they were lying there dead instead - I wonder if some game mechanic changed or if their positioning was off for some reason.
    Thats funny. I was discussing this issue with my server group on FB and we were talkin about geting mobs and using those aoes to kill the bots LOL
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    HaelseMikiro's Avatar
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    Character
    Febreealle Goldlyonse
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    For months now the same chars (from same FC) have been standing in the same place, not moving, and fighting the same things over and over by casting. Strange way to play the game.

    The surprising thing was last night they were lying there dead instead - I wonder if some game mechanic changed or if their positioning was off for some reason.
    I transferred off Diabolos months ago,are you referring to the group of 5-6 bots spiritbinding in north shroud, all wearing gear crafted by a person with the initials P.M., in a FC whose tag is just the same number repeated? Because I reported them multiple times over multiple months, and the trail on that is so easy to follow i have no idea why they would still be there unbanned
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    Character
    Kuro Moon
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    so as messed up as this may seem, (never tried it) but if you do see one of these bots and want to spoil the "fun" go fetch a monster, equip a healer class and let the AOE hit the bot and you heal the monster lol. Repeat until the bot is dead. (this is assuming you can even heal the enemy)
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Miles Saintborough
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltron_HD View Post
    so as messed up as this may seem, (never tried it) but if you do see one of these bots and want to spoil the "fun" go fetch a monster, equip a healer class and let the AOE hit the bot and you heal the monster lol. Repeat until the bot is dead. (this is assuming you can even heal the enemy)
    Uhh no you can't heal enemies at all. It'd be a stupid for it to be allowed and it has too much griefing potential.
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