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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Scholar called and has informed you that it does DoT better and has healing support abilities making the Summoner redundant.
    Out of curiosity how does Scholar do dots better? If they get stuck healing they aren't using DoTs.
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    Dement Drachte
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    Yay! Another summoner rework thread cause I haven't read enough of these in the past year and a half.

    For those that want to summon "the full blown primals" please just stop trying. We don't need to make everyone else's life a living hell so that you can do the the big shiny attack every 30 seconds. The last thing I want is for a massive primal standing in the middle of every fight I'm in. Sometimes surveying the battle is difficult enough without have to look around Titan's rocky ass all the time. Then you have the flashy attacks. The most annoying thing about Black Mages and Summoners currently is the LB3 which makes it so that you can't see anything for a few critical seconds. I'd rather not have to put up with this on a nearly constant basis. Sure I could change my settings so that I can't see anyone else's attacks but why should I have to lower the quality of my game so that you can explode the world with your summon on a constant basis. The counter argument which I've seen spring up from this is "well it worked in XI", yes and the battles in XI were incredibly different with a much slower pacing. It was possible in XI, it's not possible here.

    As for redesigning the egis, that's a somewhat valid argument but if they're going to shrink them so small that all the details become muddled... why not just have the abstract versions we have now?

    You don't want to cast DoTs, right? Okay... then do you want to be an underwhelming black mage or an underwhelming white mage with a pet cause that's how most summoner classes have played in the series.
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    Last edited by Dement; 04-17-2015 at 01:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Out of curiosity how does Scholar do dots better? If they get stuck healing they aren't using DoTs.
    Because Akiza is willing to say anything, and i mean anything, no matter how dumb to construct his narrative that Summoner should be completely changed from the ground up because he doesn't like how the class plays. He's so blindly focused on this goal of throwing the baby out with the bath water, that I am convinced that he isn't even trolling anymore. He legitimately thinks this stuff.
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Out of curiosity how does Scholar do dots better? If they get stuck healing they aren't using DoTs.
    Because Scholar can Dot and Bane enemies while healing. Only thing Summoner can do is provide is underwhelming DPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Because Scholar can Dot and Bane enemies while healing. Only thing Summoner can do is provide is underwhelming DPS
    There you go folks, if you needed any more proof that this guy is full of crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    There you go folks, if you needed any more proof that this guy is full of crap.
    I mean he's right about SCH dots doing more damage, but i mean doting while healling doenst mean anything

    its cleric stance giving 10% more all the time
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