Fix Sumnmoner

[Cynfael]

In the trailer it looks like Tri-disaster got changes to an AoE Bursts spell

Tri-Disaster could be changed to damned near anything and be more useful than what it is now (PvE-wise). I'm not putting too much stock in the benchmark trailer since the battle sequence was obviously choreographed and edited for visual effect, not to showcase the flow and effect of actual gameplay.

As sick and tired as I am of SMN complaint threads, I am 100% in favor of useless abilities for all classes becoming less so. I hope that its PvP utility doesn't get destroyed in the process, though.

[Jranmaia]

I hope that its PvP utility doesn't get destroyed in the process, though.

There is absolutely no reason to even make the limited 5 job skills currently have any pvp focused utility at all. Yoshi and the team did what any mmo that has both PvE and PvP should do and made a PvP specific skill set. Practically all PvP utility skills that have little value in PvE should be thrown in there.

[Skeith-Adeline]

There is absolutely no reason to even make the limited 5 job skills currently have any pvp focused utility at all. Yoshi and the team did what any mmo that has both PvE and PvP should do and made a PvP specific skill set. Practically all PvP utility skills that have little value in PvE should be thrown in there.

I actually wish some of the PvP abilities were in PvE. Phantom Dart ftw.

[Vlady]

Don't worry summoners. Just try to be patient til heavensward come along. You will get 5% mana cost reduction on tri blast while some strange buff is thrown into the cogs that further buffs scholar and leaves summoners in a state of wtf.

[Xiozen]

Well my 2cents... I too have to agree I'm a bit taken aback by how the Summoner Job has been implemented in this iteration of Final Fantasy. As many have already stated, the size of the egi, the "DoT" mechanics... although an interesting take, on how the Devs wanted the Summoner job to be used in the game, to I guess fit... it does take away from the actual historical significance that Summoner has been depicted in previously... I mean, look at Yuna from Final Fantasy X, a summoner who "relied entirely" on the capabilities of her summons who where awesome both in damage and support....akin, to (FFXI)...

I've seen some mention that "we" want a FFXI summoner, and perhaps we do...why?, because it does genuinely represent the Summoner job and how it has been implemented in the past...

[Xiozen]

why change a formula with so much history and lore behind it... and why (spoiler for those that don't know)... have Belial, as "big and looming and threatening" during the summoner job quests... Seriously, if SE can create Belial to be so big, why not implement the egi-system, so that they don't take a backseat to the actual Summoner...

The Egi is the job... that's my understanding of Summoner... not the other way around... this entire system is broken...for the depiction in which it has been reflected.

[Akiza]

SE thought making the Summoner a pet focuse job will be to hard to play for casual players but it turned out to be the other way around. Look at Ninja SE thought players would have a hard time squeezing out every bit of DPS with Mudras put players mastered it easily and quickly.

Summoner is suppose to be easier with the DoT focus but the majority of Summoner's are horrible because DoT classes are harder to master at high level. With the type of fast pace game this is Summoner would've been better off being a pet focus job since it fits with the overall theme of the game.

[Eloah]

I think it's funny how this thread just died, lol. It's sorta a good thing, but it's just funny.

[Akiza]

People are waiting for Heavensward changes so people are waiting until either giving it a thumbs up or complain on the forum

[Buff_Archer]

The low damage potency of Tridisaster is a bit mystifying when you compare it to Blizzard II's. The fact that it's a ranged longer duration bind with a duration around that of baned DOT's makes it useful to me in open world.