Moonlet Earring :( i want one!

[Ophie-Mio]

And to that I'll continue saying no. You don't deserve it. I know I come off as elitist but I stuck around for the end.

At least you admit that you're coming off as an elitest but it doesn't change that you're awful by saying people don't deserve something. I've had numerous friends of mine that were around for 1.0 miss that last experience of Eorzean history because the servers were overloaded garbage and couldn't handle everyone online.

I'm happy that you were around and feel that you do deserve some recognition (which you already get) but allowing some of your items to still be in a retainer's loot table isn't crazy. It's selfishness and special snowflakeism that makes you want to keep them.

In other games you're told of the world's history. In FFXIV my friends and I got to experience a small part of Eorzea's history.

Good for you. The servers liked you enough not to continuously boot you and queue you. I'm sure many other people wished they could have tolerated all of that long enough to get some of those items but alas, they only have the tattoo, the earring, and maybe the chocobo if they were around for those events.

They may only be ornaments to you but to me they're a mark that I was there. I'll concede the moonlet earring was just an event piece before we truly knew what was happening with the second moon, but it was a small part of a much larger whole. If they throw that one piece into the cash shop, then so be it, they've already set that precedent with past event items. The horn and the ring should remain untouchable.

They aren't necessarily just ornaments for us. I played through 1.0 (didn't go to the end) and I understand their significance. Other players clearly understand their significance. What says that they won't respect the items any less than the random player from 1.0 who cares so little for it that they leave it to a retainer to hold? The moonlet earring and the horn were quest items and quest items can appear in the cash shop and have recently.

Learn to grow up and understand that not everything has to remain special for it to be awesome. Hell, the developers can even make a copy of the item, name it something else, and do a quest where NPCs put on a play of the final days of Eorzea. The quest items can be costume versions of the earring and horn and ring just named something different.

The originals can remain as special as they were and the new ones can be given to people who want the glamour.

[LlenCoram]

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Most of your argument is based on the thought that all of my achievements happened in the last few days near the end. The Moonlet earring event happened before we even knew Dalamud was going to be a threat. The fight with Nael was available a good month or two before nearing the final shut down.

There was absolutely no issues being logged into the servers. Those final moments only gave us time to play around in town with unbeatable enemies. If your friends couldn't log in at a time where there was absolutely no issue logging in at all a month or two before the final shut down to get an item everyone who played 1.0 up to that point could have gotten with no fight at all from the server, then no, they don't deserve them.

Yes, it's being a special snowflake. I won't lie about that at all. The difference is they're special snowflake items I earned, not because of some stupid throwaway event but because I chose to stick around and pay for a game most people wrote off as dead. Those items signify a journey up to that point and are rewards both in the sense that they're items no one can get now and because of what they represent. You're right, there would be no loss to the significance of my accomplishments if they were re-released in the items shop whether they be given a different name or a recolour. I'd even welcome an event that recognizes the past - I think we had one recently, where the music changed to the eery redo of Answers in all the major cities.

I know I can't change your mind especially with your throwing around the "you're awful" and "grow up" comments, so I'll leave it at that.

I agree that somethings for the Legacy's should just stay to them only....Like Gobbue and stuff like that but
I don't see anything wrong with earrings. It's kinda rude to say "You don't deserve it." They are earrings and no one said they are Legacy only items.
And people making suggestions about what they want back in the game is fine, but there's no need to come off like this.

If it bothers you that much, we could always get some sort of replica of it.

I did say I conceded the earrings being event items before we knew where the Dalamud story would go would be ok being in the casshop. My hesitance to let those ones go are just my attachment to the event. My main issues are with the dalamud horn and guardian's ring.

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After discussing with a close (1.0) friend, there is one way I'd be absolutely fine with the items being re-released. All I'd want is for the original meaning to be honoured. You want the Dalamud horn? Make it a quest where you're given the backstory of what happened and what the significance was. It makes me sad when I hear new players call Louisoix "that old guy," so a quest event where you're given a replica of what we got while also being given the chance to learn the story would be fine. Of course people would mash A to get through the text as quickly as possible, but that's another issue entirely.

Anyway most of the forums hated me before this thread even existed so whatever, continue insulting and flaming me.

[Ophie-Mio]

Yes, it's being a special snowflake. I won't lie about that at all. The difference is they're special snowflake items I earned, not because of some stupid throwaway event but because I chose to stick around and pay for a game most people wrote off as dead. Those items signify a journey up to that point and are rewards both in the sense that they're items no one can get now and because of what they represent. You're right, there would be no loss to the significance of my accomplishments if they were re-released in the items shop whether they be given a different name or a recolour. I'd even welcome an event that recognizes the past - I think we had one recently, where the music changed to the eery redo of Answers in all the major cities..

My huge issue with your comment was that you offered absolutely nothing to this thread. The people who didn't agree with it didn't feel the need to bring down the thread with their negativity but you felt you had to. You felt you needed to set the standard that all legacy items and by association their players were so special that nothing they have could ever be ours.

And as Parodine said, we don't want yours, we want our own versions.

MMOs are supposed to build a community in which everyone feels like they are experiencing the same thing and together. The differences between legacy and 2.0 are only hounded by the people in the forums at times but really there's no need for that anymore. The recent event where they changed the music was an awesome one but there were no items that one could get from it. Only consumables and like, random minions. The divide between what legacy had and what 2.0 wants as options divides the community too much.

If people want to honor the 1.0 history, then they should make it so that everyone can experience some aspects of it. The items can be the first on that line.

[Shyluv]

EDIT:
After discussing with a close (1.0) friend, there is one way I'd be absolutely fine with the items being re-released. All I'd want is for the original meaning to be honoured. You want the Dalamud horn? Make it a quest where you're given the backstory of what happened and what the significance was. It makes me sad when I hear new players call Louisoix "that old guy," so a quest event where you're given a replica of what we got while also being given the chance to learn the story would be fine. Of course people would mash A to get through the text as quickly as possible, but that's another issue entirely.

As someone who was too poor to even afford internet while 1.0 was active, I would love if they'd do something like that.

[Gillionaire]

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Awww come on, you're getting your elitist kicks from being stubborn enough to put yourself through the torture of playing a bad game?

I take no pride in the fact of having played Arc the Lad 4.. or Xenosaga 3. Those were terrible, terrible games.. Being too stubborn to admit the truth is just... well, just stubborn :P
Because you've had to suffer, doesn't mean the rest of the World must suffer with you to attain your greatness

[Mugiawara]

Xenosaga 3. Those were terrible, terrible games

Totally off-topic but how could X3 be terrible?
X2 was HORRIBLE! I'm sorry, I'm a big Xenosaga fan but man they
went the wrong direction in 2. The art was awful...No offense to
Kosmos922k since I can tell she may really love the Triology but they killed
KOS-MOS in 2...She was a walking water bottle and the story was eh...the battle system was AWFUL. But that's opinions lol.


Also it does my heart good to see people apologizing on these forums.
Thank you Llen. I also apologize for calling you rude now.

[Kosmos992k]

EDIT:
After discussing with a close (1.0) friend, there is one way I'd be absolutely fine with the items being re-released. All I'd want is for the original meaning to be honoured. You want the Dalamud horn? Make it a quest where you're given the backstory of what happened and what the significance was. It makes me sad when I hear new players call Louisoix "that old guy," so a quest event where you're given a replica of what we got while also being given the chance to learn the story would be fine. Of course people would mash A to get through the text as quickly as possible, but that's another issue entirely.

This would be an awesome way to give newer player insight into the history. Unfortunately, I don't think as many of those newer players as you or I would like, will be interested in the actual lore, they will just want the stuff.

As for anyone calling Louisoix "that old guy", they should be forced to watch the collected cut scenes of 1.x on constant loop for a day or two.

I didn't play 1.x, but I know something of who Louisoix is/was. I did some research on Eorzea before joining the 3rd Beta of ARR. On top of that, the artistry of the animation in the main opening video should be more than enough to help new players understand that Louisoix was/is an extremely significant in Eorzean history. Not to mention the incredible nature of what he was able to do both in the attempt to reseal Bahamut, but also in the sacrifice be made to protect and safeguard both the adventurers (including the warriror of light) as well as the Eorzean forces that survived.

Perhaps I am reading too much into it, but in that sequence, I see the emotion and look on his face when he saves the warriror of light and his party. I see in Louisoix, someone who has tried their very best against impossible odds, but is at peace with them self and what they have accomplished. Perhaps knowing that his final act may have safeguarded Eorzea's future. Either way, I have feel the emotion and have even shed a tear at his sacrifice. I wish that somehow, somewhere Lousioix reappears in Eorzea - in our time.

Hopefully my Sig illustrates that I see some of his significance at least.

I take no pride in the fact of having played Arc the Lad 4.. or Xenosaga 3. Those were terrible, terrible games..

Um...Xenosaga 3 was far from terrible. Even the least good of the 3 Xenosaga games was so far from terrible, that it resides on the good end of the spectrum. It's all according to personal taste of course, but calling a game that many people do in fact love, terrible, is asking for trouble. Xenosaga as a whole is generally either loved or hated - or dismissed by people who believe (often without playing even a moment of Xenosaga) that Xenogears was far superior - though dismissing a game you have not played is rather a stupid thing to do.

[LlenCoram]

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You're being far more polite to me than I deserve, to be honest. It's refreshing. I apologize for being rude and for ruining what should have been a light-hearted thread. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to learn the game's history.

It's people like Gillionaire I take issue with however. The kind of person who says "Wow I can't believe you played that utter pile of crap lol who cares if you got rewarded with cool stuff it was a garbage game" only to turn around and say "I should get all that same stuff you got too because reasons." Your opinion doesn't match mine. I assure you I didn't force myself to play the game nor am I "too stubborn" to "admit the truth." 1.0 at launch was bad, but 1.23 was amazing and had many facets that were miles better than what we currently have.

Miste, my concern really comes down to how it's handled. I said before I'd okay with a replica and an event recognizing the significance of what they represent. If it's simply just a throw-away recolour or even just a rename with an identical model though, then that sets a precedent. I really doubt SE would do it, like you said, but how long until everyone starts clamoring for the legacy tattoo and legacy chocobo too?

[Wildsprite]

It makes me sad when I hear new players call Louisoix "that old guy,"

I could barely play the game so I never got to meet him in game. however the video of "end of an Era" made me immediately think of Maat from FFXI. an NPC which I respected yet hated at the same time. a teacher and a defiant being. the look on the face of Louisoix when confronted with Bahamut was one of Defiance. and I immediately wished I could have experienced his story. made me feel sad that I missed it.