Moonlet Earring :( i want one!

[Gramul]

If I could, I'd give you mine. I find them a bit tacky for someone with my...shape.

[LlenCoram]

I do really want that. The first time I saw it I thought it was a high allagan piece or something with its color scheme.

But if they dye it blue and put it in the cash-shop, that'll be fine. I wanna be a unicorn.

And to that I'll continue saying no. You don't deserve it. I know I come off as elitist but I stuck around for the end. My friends and I pursued the story involving Dalamud and Nael van Darnus, and my friends and I defeated Nael at the end. The moonlet earring, the Dalamud horn, the ring bearing my guardian deity's symbol, and my tattoo are connected and mark me as someone who was around for one of the most memorable occurrences in any video game I've ever played.

In other games you're told of the world's history. In FFXIV my friends and I got to experience a small part of Eorzea's history. They may only be ornaments to you but to me they're a mark that I was there. I'll concede the moonlet earring was just an event piece before we truly knew what was happening with the second moon, but it was a small part of a much larger whole. If they throw that one piece into the cash shop, then so be it, they've already set that precedent with past event items. The horn and the ring should remain untouchable.

[Ophie-Mio]

And to that I'll continue saying no. You don't deserve it. I know I come off as elitist but I stuck around for the end.

At least you admit that you're coming off as an elitest but it doesn't change that you're awful by saying people don't deserve something. I've had numerous friends of mine that were around for 1.0 miss that last experience of Eorzean history because the servers were overloaded garbage and couldn't handle everyone online.

I'm happy that you were around and feel that you do deserve some recognition (which you already get) but allowing some of your items to still be in a retainer's loot table isn't crazy. It's selfishness and special snowflakeism that makes you want to keep them.

In other games you're told of the world's history. In FFXIV my friends and I got to experience a small part of Eorzea's history.

Good for you. The servers liked you enough not to continuously boot you and queue you. I'm sure many other people wished they could have tolerated all of that long enough to get some of those items but alas, they only have the tattoo, the earring, and maybe the chocobo if they were around for those events.

They may only be ornaments to you but to me they're a mark that I was there. I'll concede the moonlet earring was just an event piece before we truly knew what was happening with the second moon, but it was a small part of a much larger whole. If they throw that one piece into the cash shop, then so be it, they've already set that precedent with past event items. The horn and the ring should remain untouchable.

They aren't necessarily just ornaments for us. I played through 1.0 (didn't go to the end) and I understand their significance. Other players clearly understand their significance. What says that they won't respect the items any less than the random player from 1.0 who cares so little for it that they leave it to a retainer to hold? The moonlet earring and the horn were quest items and quest items can appear in the cash shop and have recently.

Learn to grow up and understand that not everything has to remain special for it to be awesome. Hell, the developers can even make a copy of the item, name it something else, and do a quest where NPCs put on a play of the final days of Eorzea. The quest items can be costume versions of the earring and horn and ring just named something different.

The originals can remain as special as they were and the new ones can be given to people who want the glamour.

[Terrini]

The Dalamud Horn us certainly cool, but like Maxwell said, is there a problem with people wanting an item so they can resemble unicorns? I'd say no. I appreciate the sentiment thar certain items be exclusive, missed opportunities for others, but I see no reason that there cannot be similar items like a horn available for all classes for glamor purposes, even be able to be dyed. Also large bead earrings isn't too much to ask for right?

[Parodine]

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No see, I don't want your horn, silly. I want a recolored cash-shop one. Kinda like 2.0 people didn't get your Goobbue mount, we got a different one.

Clutch hold to them tight and know you're a special snowflake, it's cool. But if you think the model is untouchable, you may be in for an unpleasant surprise down the road.

[Mugiawara]

And to that I'll continue saying no. You don't deserve it. I know I come off as elitist but I stuck around for the end.

I agree that somethings for the Legacy's should just stay to them only....Like Gobbue and stuff like that but
I don't see anything wrong with earrings. It's kinda rude to say "You don't deserve it." They are earrings and no one said they are Legacy only items.
And people making suggestions about what they want back in the game is fine, but there's no need to come off like this.

If it bothers you that much, we could always get some sort of replica of it.

[LlenCoram]

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Most of your argument is based on the thought that all of my achievements happened in the last few days near the end. The Moonlet earring event happened before we even knew Dalamud was going to be a threat. The fight with Nael was available a good month or two before nearing the final shut down.

There was absolutely no issues being logged into the servers. Those final moments only gave us time to play around in town with unbeatable enemies. If your friends couldn't log in at a time where there was absolutely no issue logging in at all a month or two before the final shut down to get an item everyone who played 1.0 up to that point could have gotten with no fight at all from the server, then no, they don't deserve them.

Yes, it's being a special snowflake. I won't lie about that at all. The difference is they're special snowflake items I earned, not because of some stupid throwaway event but because I chose to stick around and pay for a game most people wrote off as dead. Those items signify a journey up to that point and are rewards both in the sense that they're items no one can get now and because of what they represent. You're right, there would be no loss to the significance of my accomplishments if they were re-released in the items shop whether they be given a different name or a recolour. I'd even welcome an event that recognizes the past - I think we had one recently, where the music changed to the eery redo of Answers in all the major cities.

I know I can't change your mind especially with your throwing around the "you're awful" and "grow up" comments, so I'll leave it at that.

I agree that somethings for the Legacy's should just stay to them only....Like Gobbue and stuff like that but
I don't see anything wrong with earrings. It's kinda rude to say "You don't deserve it." They are earrings and no one said they are Legacy only items.
And people making suggestions about what they want back in the game is fine, but there's no need to come off like this.

If it bothers you that much, we could always get some sort of replica of it.

I did say I conceded the earrings being event items before we knew where the Dalamud story would go would be ok being in the casshop. My hesitance to let those ones go are just my attachment to the event. My main issues are with the dalamud horn and guardian's ring.

EDIT:
After discussing with a close (1.0) friend, there is one way I'd be absolutely fine with the items being re-released. All I'd want is for the original meaning to be honoured. You want the Dalamud horn? Make it a quest where you're given the backstory of what happened and what the significance was. It makes me sad when I hear new players call Louisoix "that old guy," so a quest event where you're given a replica of what we got while also being given the chance to learn the story would be fine. Of course people would mash A to get through the text as quickly as possible, but that's another issue entirely.

Anyway most of the forums hated me before this thread even existed so whatever, continue insulting and flaming me.

[Ophie-Mio]

Yes, it's being a special snowflake. I won't lie about that at all. The difference is they're special snowflake items I earned, not because of some stupid throwaway event but because I chose to stick around and pay for a game most people wrote off as dead. Those items signify a journey up to that point and are rewards both in the sense that they're items no one can get now and because of what they represent. You're right, there would be no loss to the significance of my accomplishments if they were re-released in the items shop whether they be given a different name or a recolour. I'd even welcome an event that recognizes the past - I think we had one recently, where the music changed to the eery redo of Answers in all the major cities..

My huge issue with your comment was that you offered absolutely nothing to this thread. The people who didn't agree with it didn't feel the need to bring down the thread with their negativity but you felt you had to. You felt you needed to set the standard that all legacy items and by association their players were so special that nothing they have could ever be ours.

And as Parodine said, we don't want yours, we want our own versions.

MMOs are supposed to build a community in which everyone feels like they are experiencing the same thing and together. The differences between legacy and 2.0 are only hounded by the people in the forums at times but really there's no need for that anymore. The recent event where they changed the music was an awesome one but there were no items that one could get from it. Only consumables and like, random minions. The divide between what legacy had and what 2.0 wants as options divides the community too much.

If people want to honor the 1.0 history, then they should make it so that everyone can experience some aspects of it. The items can be the first on that line.

[Kosmos992k]

OK, I can see that there are as usual people actively trying to take offense where none was meant. I suggested adding items from 1.0 to the loot tables for ventures so that some of those items could slowly filter back into Eorzea as very rare and unusual items. In a logic and lore sense it kind of makes sense that when exploring a retainer might stumble across some rare item dropped by someone else previously.

I wasn't saying that all exclusive, especially the significant event items, should be included. Obviously such things must be handled with care do as not to diminish the achievement or significance of the event they mark. At the same time though, there are also many items that could be added without causing problems.

The intention of the thought was not to take away from the accomplishments of players who played in the 1.0 era. It also has to be said that a) there are many items from that version of the game that were not necessarily billed as rare or exclusive at the time, but which are not available in A realm reborn, and b) many of those things would and should still be in circulation. In the same way as paraphernalia from the US Civil War, 1st and 2nd World Wars, the Korean War or Vietnam are still in the hands of many individuals as rare mementos of days gone by; such items would still be in Eorzea. The Civil War/WW1/WW2/Korean artifacts in our real world, are in many, many cases languishing in trunks or attics, or perhaps lost somewhere in a yard, or even further afield, waiting for the day when a person with a metal detector looks their way. Eorzean artifacts would be no different.

Does someone finding and displaying a medal that a soldier in WW2 wore with honor, but lost sometime in the past, in any way diminish whatever act(s) of heroism the soldier was awarded the medal for? Of course not, and the item itself serves as a reminder of the events and the cost.

[Shyluv]

EDIT:
After discussing with a close (1.0) friend, there is one way I'd be absolutely fine with the items being re-released. All I'd want is for the original meaning to be honoured. You want the Dalamud horn? Make it a quest where you're given the backstory of what happened and what the significance was. It makes me sad when I hear new players call Louisoix "that old guy," so a quest event where you're given a replica of what we got while also being given the chance to learn the story would be fine. Of course people would mash A to get through the text as quickly as possible, but that's another issue entirely.

As someone who was too poor to even afford internet while 1.0 was active, I would love if they'd do something like that.