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    Next you'll be asking for the dalamud horn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    Next you'll be asking for the dalamud horn...
    I do really want that. The first time I saw it I thought it was a high allagan piece or something with its color scheme.

    But if they dye it blue and put it in the cash-shop, that'll be fine. I wanna be a unicorn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    I do really want that. The first time I saw it I thought it was a high allagan piece or something with its color scheme.

    But if they dye it blue and put it in the cash-shop, that'll be fine. I wanna be a unicorn.
    And to that I'll continue saying no. You don't deserve it. I know I come off as elitist but I stuck around for the end. My friends and I pursued the story involving Dalamud and Nael van Darnus, and my friends and I defeated Nael at the end. The moonlet earring, the Dalamud horn, the ring bearing my guardian deity's symbol, and my tattoo are connected and mark me as someone who was around for one of the most memorable occurrences in any video game I've ever played.

    In other games you're told of the world's history. In FFXIV my friends and I got to experience a small part of Eorzea's history. They may only be ornaments to you but to me they're a mark that I was there. I'll concede the moonlet earring was just an event piece before we truly knew what was happening with the second moon, but it was a small part of a much larger whole. If they throw that one piece into the cash shop, then so be it, they've already set that precedent with past event items. The horn and the ring should remain untouchable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    And to that I'll continue saying no. You don't deserve it. I know I come off as elitist but I stuck around for the end.
    At least you admit that you're coming off as an elitest but it doesn't change that you're awful by saying people don't deserve something. I've had numerous friends of mine that were around for 1.0 miss that last experience of Eorzean history because the servers were overloaded garbage and couldn't handle everyone online.

    I'm happy that you were around and feel that you do deserve some recognition (which you already get) but allowing some of your items to still be in a retainer's loot table isn't crazy. It's selfishness and special snowflakeism that makes you want to keep them.

    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    In other games you're told of the world's history. In FFXIV my friends and I got to experience a small part of Eorzea's history.
    Good for you. The servers liked you enough not to continuously boot you and queue you. I'm sure many other people wished they could have tolerated all of that long enough to get some of those items but alas, they only have the tattoo, the earring, and maybe the chocobo if they were around for those events.

    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    They may only be ornaments to you but to me they're a mark that I was there. I'll concede the moonlet earring was just an event piece before we truly knew what was happening with the second moon, but it was a small part of a much larger whole. If they throw that one piece into the cash shop, then so be it, they've already set that precedent with past event items. The horn and the ring should remain untouchable.
    They aren't necessarily just ornaments for us. I played through 1.0 (didn't go to the end) and I understand their significance. Other players clearly understand their significance. What says that they won't respect the items any less than the random player from 1.0 who cares so little for it that they leave it to a retainer to hold? The moonlet earring and the horn were quest items and quest items can appear in the cash shop and have recently.

    Learn to grow up and understand that not everything has to remain special for it to be awesome. Hell, the developers can even make a copy of the item, name it something else, and do a quest where NPCs put on a play of the final days of Eorzea. The quest items can be costume versions of the earring and horn and ring just named something different.

    The originals can remain as special as they were and the new ones can be given to people who want the glamour.
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    Last edited by Ophie-Mio; 03-28-2015 at 05:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
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    Most of your argument is based on the thought that all of my achievements happened in the last few days near the end. The Moonlet earring event happened before we even knew Dalamud was going to be a threat. The fight with Nael was available a good month or two before nearing the final shut down.

    There was absolutely no issues being logged into the servers. Those final moments only gave us time to play around in town with unbeatable enemies. If your friends couldn't log in at a time where there was absolutely no issue logging in at all a month or two before the final shut down to get an item everyone who played 1.0 up to that point could have gotten with no fight at all from the server, then no, they don't deserve them.

    Yes, it's being a special snowflake. I won't lie about that at all. The difference is they're special snowflake items I earned, not because of some stupid throwaway event but because I chose to stick around and pay for a game most people wrote off as dead. Those items signify a journey up to that point and are rewards both in the sense that they're items no one can get now and because of what they represent. You're right, there would be no loss to the significance of my accomplishments if they were re-released in the items shop whether they be given a different name or a recolour. I'd even welcome an event that recognizes the past - I think we had one recently, where the music changed to the eery redo of Answers in all the major cities.

    I know I can't change your mind especially with your throwing around the "you're awful" and "grow up" comments, so I'll leave it at that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    I agree that somethings for the Legacy's should just stay to them only....Like Gobbue and stuff like that but
    I don't see anything wrong with earrings. It's kinda rude to say "You don't deserve it." They are earrings and no one said they are Legacy only items.
    And people making suggestions about what they want back in the game is fine, but there's no need to come off like this.

    If it bothers you that much, we could always get some sort of replica of it.
    I did say I conceded the earrings being event items before we knew where the Dalamud story would go would be ok being in the casshop. My hesitance to let those ones go are just my attachment to the event. My main issues are with the dalamud horn and guardian's ring.

    EDIT:
    After discussing with a close (1.0) friend, there is one way I'd be absolutely fine with the items being re-released. All I'd want is for the original meaning to be honoured. You want the Dalamud horn? Make it a quest where you're given the backstory of what happened and what the significance was. It makes me sad when I hear new players call Louisoix "that old guy," so a quest event where you're given a replica of what we got while also being given the chance to learn the story would be fine. Of course people would mash A to get through the text as quickly as possible, but that's another issue entirely.

    Anyway most of the forums hated me before this thread even existed so whatever, continue insulting and flaming me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
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    No see, I don't want your horn, silly. I want a recolored cash-shop one. Kinda like 2.0 people didn't get your Goobbue mount, we got a different one.

    Clutch hold to them tight and know you're a special snowflake, it's cool. But if you think the model is untouchable, you may be in for an unpleasant surprise down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    No see, I don't want your horn, silly. I want a recolored cash-shop one. Kinda like 2.0 people didn't get your Goobbue mount, we got a different one.
    Why on earth would you want it cash shop then?

    Why not have a fun quest or in game reward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    And to that I'll continue saying no. You don't deserve it. I know I come off as elitist but I stuck around for the end.
    I agree that somethings for the Legacy's should just stay to them only....Like Gobbue and stuff like that but
    I don't see anything wrong with earrings. It's kinda rude to say "You don't deserve it." They are earrings and no one said they are Legacy only items.
    And people making suggestions about what they want back in the game is fine, but there's no need to come off like this.

    If it bothers you that much, we could always get some sort of replica of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    And to that I'll continue saying no. You don't deserve it.
    I was too poor to afford to subscribe when 1.0 was out (although I got the game as a present, so I played it for 30 days)... Now I'm old enough to work, why should I be punished because I wasn't old enough for something? If they ever considered re-releasing the items, I'd be able to hopefully learn the lore behind them through quests or something, so I too could experience a bit of 1.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmeron View Post
    I was too poor to afford to subscribe when 1.0 was out (although I got the game as a present, so I played it for 30 days)... Now I'm old enough to work, why should I be punished because I wasn't old enough for something? If they ever considered re-releasing the items, I'd be able to hopefully learn the lore behind them through quests or something, so I too could experience a bit of 1.0.
    the event for the moonlet earring was still within the 15 months long "extended free month". Sub didn't start before january 2012.
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    Last edited by Felis; 03-28-2015 at 06:18 PM.

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