Community Effort: NIN and Mudra System

[Haibel]

The easiest way to fix the mudra lag is to get rid of them all together. Just give us the end skills tied to them and add the mudra animations to the skills to balance out time gained. I love playing nin, and don't usually have the lag issues, but it's a huge pain in the ass when it shows up. The whole little meta game of mudra input just seems unnecessary to me.

[Reokudo]

WTFast helped me with my mudra lag ever so slightly. But it would be better not having to rely on it just for that alone.

[DoctorPepper]

I agree with this thread, mudra lag has gone on long enough. It makes the whole job less fun than it should be and needs to be addressed asap. I love my ninja but I would love it a lot more if mudras always casted instantly like they're supposed to, not just 1/10 times.

[Edellis]

As much as i'd like to see this fixed, i'm sure the compromise to fix it would involve Ninja being less fun to play at the end of the day. If Ninjutsu were cast through simply glorified animations after i chose the skill i wanted, i would have never started playing ninja in the first place.

I doubt they will allow the mudra to be cast client-side without the server checking first. Client-side anything is subject to exploits.

[Kitfox]

Mudras are badly designed because their 0.5 sec timer is way too short and makes them too easily affected by lag. Every other skill basically works on a 2.0-2.5 second GCD, so there's a lot more room for latency.

Mudras either need to be put on a longer cast timer or be allowed between GCDs to make NIN equally playable for more people. It doesn't make sense that you can deal with game mechanics on 200-300 ms latency but for this one class you'll need less than 50 ms delay to play optimally.

I really wanted to like NIN but I'm switching back to other melee classes cause I just can't be bothered to deal with mudras.

[Orrias]

Change your effort to: "Community effort for lower latency -- Petition for EU located data centres",

It'll remove all the subjective banter going on in this thread, and you'll have addressed the fundamental issue.

Also, it'll be more perspicacious to petition for EU data centres as it'll put a stop to any current latency issues (e.g. dodging AoEs, mudra lag, getting x2 oGCD abilities into 2.5 sec GCD, etc.), as well as any future pitfalls concerning latency.

[Kitfox]

Change your effort to: "Community effort for lower latency -- Petition for EU located data centres",

It'll remove all the subjective banter going on in this thread, and you'll have addressed the fundamental issue.

Also, it'll be more perspicacious to petition for EU data centres as it'll put a stop to any current latency issues (e.g. dodging AoEs, mudra lag, getting x2 oGCD abilities into 2.5 sec GCD, etc.), as well as any future pitfalls concerning latency.

Having a design that works on a wide range of latency is a GOOD thing, not a bad one. EU datacenters are coming anyway so there's no need to petition for those.

[Callinon]

Change your effort to: "Community effort for lower latency -- Petition for EU located data centres",

It'll remove all the subjective banter going on in this thread, and you'll have addressed the fundamental issue.

Also, it'll be more perspicacious to petition for EU data centres as it'll put a stop to any current latency issues (e.g. dodging AoEs, mudra lag, getting x2 oGCD abilities into 2.5 sec GCD, etc.), as well as any future pitfalls concerning latency.

I'm in the US and I'm still affected by this, playing on NA data centers. Montreal isn't close to most of the US.

[Orrias]

Having a design that works on a wide range of latency is a GOOD thing, not a bad one. EU datacenters are coming anyway so there's no need to petition for those.

Still not heard anything substantial about them tbh.

I'm in the US and I'm still affected by this, playing on NA data centers. Montreal isn't close to most of the US.

I don't know of your circumstances, but I know the infrastructure of the internet in the U.S is shoddy. Perhaps it's more of an ISP issue? What's your ping btw? I'd be interested to know the latency of a West coast U.S player compared to latency of an East coast player.

[Edellis]

Let's just keep Mudras as they are, stick them on the GCD, and buff ninjutsu accordingly.

No? Well i tried. 800 Potency Raiton sounds cool to me though.