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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    Denied.

    Like Yoshida said, there is a r50 willing to spend his time killing crap mobs so a r5 friend levels up faster. There's nothing wrong with that.

    Short version: If you don't want to power level others or be power leveled by others just don't do it.

    lolZenaQQ
    So when you have a party with a r35 gladiator that has no idea how to do their job nor what half their skills do... then you will be QQ.

    It's "baby-fieing" an already easy leveling system. I can't believe they are promoting power leveling... and at such an early state of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    So when you have a party with a r35 gladiator that has no idea how to do their job nor what half their skills do... then you will be QQ.

    It's "baby-fieing" an already easy leveling system. I can't believe they are promoting power leveling... and at such an early state of the game.
    As I said before, most people can learn how properly play a class in a very small fraction of the 1-50 grind.

    Those who can't... The community will help to avoid them.

    The fact is you guys who are dying to be able to grind for hundreds of hours just want all of us to be forced to do so, to need you, to have to play with you.

    I am glad we are now being given an alternative. Go hire yourself some grinder friends if you need it so much.
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    If you think you can get to "Max" in a "few days" with this method, you haven't tried it. Respectfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme View Post
    If you think you can get to "Max" in a "few days" with this method, you haven't tried it. Respectfully.
    Quick question does the new system allow me to attack 50 mobs then the rank 50 kill all 50 and i get the EXP? without them being in my party
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Quick question does the new system allow me to attack 50 mobs then the rank 50 kill all 50 and i get the EXP? without them being in my party
    Where can you find 50 mobs in a cluster anywhere on the map?

    But to the point, people get tired of killing mice. They don't want to have to do it again for very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme View Post
    Where can you find 50 mobs in a cluster anywhere on the map?

    But to the point, people get tired of killing mice. They don't want to have to do it again for very long.
    Once again you did not answer my question. Can i get 10+ mobs and get EXP for each one if i attack it and then the PL kill it all?
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    another thread on this? really?.... I said it in the other one, and I will say it here, the info we have is not really clear, I really don't think it is going to the this "power level fest" that some think it will be.
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    Pwr lvling only really works until rank 24 honestly, after that it all falls apart. And although that is about 50% in numbers to 50 it is only like 8-12% of the total SP.

    The whole pwrlvling only works because of the massive SP bonus pre 25, after that your SP will actually be higher sp/hr in a normal party then a pwrlvl.

    Sp has a cap )10 levels) so a rank 25 getting sp from a rank 50 is going to be like 200-350sp/kill depending on the mob. And higher level mobs that give decent sp will not work in pwrlvl setting because there are simply not enough things to kill. Example Take a rank 30 person to Down's raptors and get ~25k/hr, take a rank 30 to a proper camp get ~25k/hr. This method is just not effective you are sacrificing a ton of time at no gain.

    People did it in XI and nothing bad happened... and they did it in well every other mmo to a point as well. It is because 1 reason. At a point in all mmo pwrlvling is just 100% ineffective.

    I will say I have pwrlvled probably over 80 people in my ls to around 18-20 and for 1 reason, so they can participate in our events. Rank 1-20 is solo and honestly most people I meet in-game do not want to do that. SO get them to 25 and get them doing leves, dungeons, Nms, grind partys in a group... and they enjoy the game alot more. Many people said they where at the verge of quitting Pre-25 before getting in my group... now they have multiple 50s.

    While Pwrlvling is negative in some ways (gets ppl higher up with no knowledge of the game) in this case it gets them to a point they can truly play the game they way they want to, with others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Pwr lvling only really works until rank 24 honestly, after that it all falls apart. And although that is about 50% in numbers to 50 it is only like 8-12% of the total SP.

    The whole pwrlvling only works because of the massive SP bonus pre 25, after that your SP will actually be higher sp/hr in a normal party then a pwrlvl.

    Sp has a cap )10 levels) so a rank 25 getting sp from a rank 50 is going to be like 200-350sp/kill depending on the mob. And higher level mobs that give decent sp will not work in pwrlvl setting because there are simply not enough things to kill. Example Take a rank 30 person to Down's raptors and get ~25k/hr, take a rank 30 to a proper camp get ~25k/hr. This method is just not effective you are sacrificing a ton of time at no gain.

    People did it in XI and nothing bad happened... and they did it in well every other mmo to a point as well. It is because 1 reason. At a point in all mmo pwrlvling is just 100% ineffective.

    I will say I have pwrlvled probably over 80 people in my ls to around 18-20 and for 1 reason, so they can participate in our events. Rank 1-20 is solo and honestly most people I meet in-game do not want to do that. SO get them to 25 and get them doing leves, dungeons, Nms, grind partys in a group... and they enjoy the game alot more. Many people said they where at the verge of quitting Pre-25 before getting in my group... now they have multiple 50s.

    While Pwrlvling is negative in some ways (gets ppl higher up with no knowledge of the game) in this case it gets them to a point they can truly play the game they way they want to, with others.
    Pretty much this. The assumption that SE is "half-***" anything at this point is the words of a forum troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme View Post
    Pretty much this. The assumption that SE is "half-***" anything at this point is the words of a forum troll.
    If you talking about me it's because it's true they could have done it many other ways without doing it like they said. Yoshi-p said it was so his other event that he going to add would be easy done. I understand it would take longer and such and the crystal tool is hard to deal with. But at the end it's that they don't want to waste that much amount of time and do it the fastest way.

    Please stop calling everyone a troll you using the word wrong i'm asking question / making my topic of my idea to see what other think if they dislike it then find a better way this issue could be done that everyone can agree on. "that the point of this topic" Troll would start a topic and get 50+ page of people fighting each other and the person who start it does not even talk again how many time have this happen? i'm still here talking and agreeing and trying to understand what other want and try to fit that in to a even better idea.

    that the point of the forums to start with to talk.
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