[dev1026] Please reconsider level sync "Then allowing power leveling"

[weeble]

TL;DR but 3 lines

AFAIK SE doesn't want the game being run more than once in a single OS. Since they don't block more than 1 session from the same IP (hello NAT!) or more than 1 account from one credit card it would seem they are OK with it.

*snicker*

So it bothers you that some people have more than one account, huh?

lawl

no no, the hole point of this whole thread is that they should remove pl'ing as a need and to add a level sync like in ffxi, there were still pl'ing in ffxi even with it but it wasn't needed for one and the real players didn't have to do it. also real friends could level together, and rank 70's could join a rank 40 if he wanted to. it created lots of choices ...where as pl'ing removes choices it creates a means where we are all at the one same spot that yeilds the fastest respawn while someone else is killing all the mobs an your afk. it's a better choice in my opinion an like the op has stated in 9pages of post.

pl's aren't playing the game, they are shortcuts to achieving a max player or players the easiest way possible, and everyone leans towards the easiest route, they are like lightning to the ground.

[weeble]

also might i add that my last time in ants in copperbells i had a real party made and in came a group of 5-7people with 1 archer rank 50, they cleared all the ants and left us with nothing. yes the worse part was they was rude enough to over camp us, but either way if it stays that way everyone will be doing it that way. it was one thing that a healer healed everyone in ffxi out of party, it was 1 person ...and the rest of group still killed, u either didn't have a healer in the party or he was bored and maybe nuked banish or whatever instead. this is everyone afk but one, total opposite.

and lmao k last thing so i can stop tldr ...we can't heal out of party for the nm's in the game, simple concept would probably be because it is tooo easy and is cheating. same thing, but is okay for grinding for whatever reason. ....though lol they are adding a different targeting system, but it was in place at the moment.

yes for level syncs and no thanks for a game full of pl's. ty. and i'll stop posting in this thread now, ... maybe.

[Zenaku]

Those things are all cheating, being power leveled is not cheating it is simply benefiting from the work of others. As long as you don't pay for a powerleveling service the two are completely different. RMT in a game is always wrong.

If I want to power level someone I don't see how that hurts anyone else because I am sacrificing my time and I am not exploiting some loophole that allows that person to level much faster. I honestly think if balanced right a good party chaining/linking mobs should be able to out level a power leveled group.

It is cheating in my book if you just hit 20 mobs and the PL kill them all you gain all the EXP from all 20mob you can get 1-21 less 1hour of work. Before the update that mess up Guildleves i got 1-20 doing linking guildleves with me and my gf that took about 2hours of work that not bad why not leave the system how it was? but no now it's having someone powerlevel you, you can get 1-20 in less then 2hours due to the mobs having short repop now in 1.19 patch top of that everyone would be doing this way so everyone even new players would have to do it.

So i don't see why can't we have level-sync 8 members fighting mobs and then a powerlevel but one that only heals the party they can't attack the mob. That better and you still going to get high level up due exp chain and not stoping. VS getting someone to kill everything for you and you can get 8 account 20 within a short amount of time.

But w/e when the patch hit and everyone see this issue they make 10 + topic about it then yoshi-p would have to fix it and wait other month of work to fix this issue he made himself. Just like the guildleves remember that? low exp? then everyone complain about it? but he said it was not the way to level then he fix it so it give little more exp?

what about the behest? we could do them every 30mins and now he made it so we can only do it every 1hour again due to the 5min timer before you can do it again come on he doing something good then he go back and take it away.

but w/e i'll see what happen when the patch hit and see if it good or bad but i know this not going to turn out very good.

[Zenaku]

no no, the hole point of this whole thread is that they should remove pl'ing as a need and to add a level sync like in ffxi, there were still pl'ing in ffxi even with it but it wasn't needed for one and the real players didn't have to do it. also real friends could level together, and rank 70's could join a rank 40 if he wanted to. it created lots of choices ...where as pl'ing removes choices it creates a means where we are all at the one same spot that yeilds the fastest respawn while someone else is killing all the mobs an your afk. it's a better choice in my opinion an like the op has stated in 9pages of post.

pl's aren't playing the game, they are shortcuts to achieving a max player or players the easiest way possible, and everyone leans towards the easiest route, they are like lightning to the ground.

People don't care if you give them facts up front they only care when the patch hit live and they make 10-20 topic complain about the same issue we are now that how people are when they see a topic they read and all they have to say about it is "QQ" Go back to FFXI "Troll" they don't even care if this issue would mess up there gameplay they want to see it for themselfs. They don't get the point of the forums is to complain and talk about the issue that why there a dev tag for this "Dev1026" it's to tell yoshi-p that this may not work out and if he overlook at his work again and goes ok your right let fix it.

Even if we get 1week delay to fix the issue it's better then waiting 1-2month of him working at it again when he could use that time to make 1.20 patch. that how i see it it happen in every dam patch we have to make a new patch to fix issue like leves giving low sp? i thought he said that was not the main way of level up so it should not give a lot of sp. 10-20 + topics and they change it to give more SP.

Let's wait for the patch if it does come with issue yoshi-p would change it if not then w/e i guess everyone would get max level less then 1month. Then again he said he want people to get Max level within 3month of work lol or something like that.

[Felis]

I didn't play FF XI and I don't know this level sync, but how about it would be like the r40 char killing with a r20 party r25 enemys get his stats calculated down to r25 (or r20) but get the same exp like every another r40 char killing r25 enemys without calculated down stats?

[RabidSquirrel]

I'll say right now that I didn't read the entire ten pages of posts, but wow. I am speechless. Yoshi, what are you doing??

I'm sure someone in this thread as mentioned it, but look at what Abyssea power leveling has done to FFXI. You never find parties above level 30 because everyone just parties to 30 and then pays for power leveling groups to 90. It's terrible.

I'd much rather have level sync.

[Zenaku]

I didn't play FF XI and I don't know this level sync, but how about it would be like the r40 char killing with a r20 party r25 enemys get his stats calculated down to r25 (or r20) but get the same exp like every another r40 char killing r25 enemys without calculated down stats?

Let's say your level 40 and you going to party with a friend who level 20. Your gear/stats would be calculated down to a level 20. Seeing how the gear now work about the same as FFXI level-sync or even better for that matter that half the work done. The system allow a rank 40 to party with a level 20 and get the same amount of EXP.

But i guess that where other issue start party would level sync to area that only give best EXP but that could easy be fix if they do the system right. Fixing that is better then allowing everyone to powerlevel each other seeing 8 people 7 on follow and 1 person attack all mobs then the rank 50 kill them all and each person in the party get 1-20 less then 1hour is not a good system to me.


@RabidSquirrel it's nice to have someone talk about the issue and explain why it a bad idea this was the point of the topic to talk about why or why not is a good idea what SE is doing.

I hope dev read this and we can get something from yoshi-p on who he going to deal with this issue. But from what he said it seem he does not care and allowing people do this. But i guess he does not understand that all players would do this to get max level asap. i think it best to fix this now then waste more time on it later. when he could be doing work on the other patch this is the reason this game is not done yet due to everyone complain about the patch then he have to work on making a new patch to fix issue about that patch.

[Charismatic]

I'll say right now that I didn't read the entire ten pages of posts, but wow. I am speechless. Yoshi, what are you doing??

I'm sure someone in this thread as mentioned it, but look at what Abyssea power leveling has done to FFXI. You never find parties above level 30 because everyone just parties to 30 and then pays for power leveling groups to 90. It's terrible.

I'd much rather have level sync.

At first it won't be like this in FFXIV and the other folks are going to be saying "see it isn't that bad" but this time next year it'll be PL all day erreday.