[dev1026] Please reconsider level sync "Then allowing power leveling"

[Ilean]

Dont have a problem with the new system at all. PL or don't. The game doesnt even really start for me in MMOs til endgame anyways. They could still add the level sync system in conjunction with the new claiming system though and then you'd have both. If anything, I am more concerned about them adding level caps to Instanced areas like Totorak.

Agree.

Also it's not like r50s will be dying to PL random strangers for the hell of it. Like Yoshida said, it's something you do for friends, or for people who make it worth your while in gil.

[Zenaku]

Agree.

Also it's not like r50s will be dying to PL random strangers for the hell of it. Like Yoshida said, it's something you do for friends, or for people who make it worth your while in gil.

Everyday in Ul'dah "Powerlevel {Can i have it} 150K in hour /tell

or

Level sync party "Do you need it" Level 25 3/8 Powerlevel with us

and by powerlevel i mean just a person that heals not kills your mobs

sorry but i like that over someone killing your mobs so you can cheat yourself to max level. Yoshi-p really need to rethink this he may not find it as a cheat but most players do it's not helping others party together it making them just solo even more. He even lowering the mob poptime which mean you can PL even better -.- this is just a joke and he should really think about it before releasing this patch.

but i'll see it once it goes live 1-2week in the patch we see 10+ topic about the same or new issue this system brought to the table.

[Ilean]

Everyday in Ul'dah "Powerlevel {Can i have it} 150K in hour /tell

or

Level sync party "Do you need it" Level 25 3/8 Powerlevel with us

and by powerlevel i mean just a person that heals not kills your mobs

sorry but i like that over someone killing your mobs so you can cheat yourself to max level. Yoshi-p really need to rethink this he may not find it as a cheat but most players do it's not helping others party together it making them just solo even more. He even lowering the mob poptime which mean you can PL even better -.- this is just a joke and he should really think about it before releasing this patch.

but i'll see it once it goes live 1-2week in the patch we see 10+ topic about the same or new issue this system brought to the table.

Why would you care how others play or what they spend their gil at? /shrug

/sigh... gameplay nazis...

Stupid people who think they are holy enough to decide how others should play... Each of us is free to build a bubble out of other people who think and play alike. If you find yourself concerned with stuff other people do that doesn't affect you directly you should go see a shrink.

[weeble]

Why would you care how others play or what they spend their gil at? /shrug

/sigh... gameplay nazis...

Stupid people who think they are holy enough to decide how others should play... Each of us is free to build a bubble out of other people who think and play alike. If you find yourself concerned with stuff other people do that doesn't affect you directly you should go see a shrink.

but it does effect him and all others, a game has a set goal/time line for everyone to hit level, when some are cheating or not cheating according to yoshi then some can zoom levels, while others are either given a choice to join the crowd of cheaters, or get pushed aside and level slowly and correctly, and on top of that his work will be for nothing cause big deal it won't mean anything. it's called progression, most people in mmo's strive on it, it's why they play. once u stop progressing on a character it no longer can be called fun to play.

he doesn't sound like a nazis, u sound like someone who thinks they can rule in a bubble. lol if everyone is pl'ing or everyone is expecting to be pl'd it effects all. for one it will take work for most people to get pl's, i make my own groups for party grinds, but i don't have duel box, and i don't know people willing to waste hours to pocket heal me and a party all day. this made the last years of ffxi kinda annoying, shouting for 100k hour healers to go along with a group. it's like vent, from 10years ago to now everyone is expected to use vent for stuff, u start a dungeon run on some mmo's and it's like what's the vent? no vent? no pl?

also pl'ing in reality isn't being done by friends trying to catch people up to them, cause then level sync would be fine. right? cap people together at same levels wala. other then that it is by any and all means cheating, u throw money at it, with multi pc's and accounts to duel box(np for se cause u paying them) or you have real life friends to do it, or take turns going afk while someone pl's the group, i've done this a few levels and it was boring ...sit there afk ..this isn't playing a game. it sounds fair to me to say that it does effect us all in some shapes or forms. no one wants to walk past your big bad bubble rocking out like you worked anyway near as hard as half the other players on the server.


also to add how do u seperate pl'ing and duel boxing to be different then buying gil, or buying a made account or even botting? what is different? nothing outside that yoshi said it is ok to do.

[Ilean]

but it does effect him and all others, a game has a set goal/time line for everyone to hit level, when some are cheating or not cheating according to yoshi then some can zoom levels, while others are either given a choice to join the crowd of cheaters, or get pushed aside and level slowly and correctly, and on top of that his work will be for nothing cause big deal it won't mean anything. it's called progression, most people in mmo's strive on it, it's why they play. once u stop progressing on a character it no longer can be called fun to play.

he doesn't sound like a nazis, u sound like someone who thinks they can rule in a bubble. lol if everyone is pl'ing or everyone is expecting to be pl'd it effects all. for one it will take work for most people to get pl's, i make my own groups for party grinds, but i don't have duel box, and i don't know people willing to waste hours to pocket heal me and a party all day. this made the last years of ffxi kinda annoying, shouting for 100k hour healers to go along with a group. it's like vent, from 10years ago to now everyone is expected to use vent for stuff, u start a dungeon run on some mmo's and it's like what's the vent? no vent? no pl?

also pl'ing in reality isn't being done by friends trying to catch people up to them, cause then level sync would be fine. right? cap people together at same levels wala. other then that it is by any and all means cheating, u throw money at it, with multi pc's and accounts to duel box(np for se cause u paying them) or you have real life friends to do it, or take turns going afk while someone pl's the group, i've done this a few levels and it was boring ...sit there afk ..this isn't playing a game. it sounds fair to me to say that it does effect us all in some shapes or forms. no one wants to walk past your big bad bubble rocking out like you worked anyway near as hard as half the other players on the server.


also to add how do u seperate pl'ing and duel boxing to be different then buying gil, or buying a made account or even botting? what is different? nothing outside that yoshi said it is ok to do.

TL;DR
except for the first few lines

Progress your character, do your stuff.

Stop OCDing about what others do or do not. If you can't, you are damaged «inside» «head».

Is "live and let die" such a hard to grasp concept?

[weeble]

TL;DR
except for the first few lines

Progress your character, do your stuff.

Stop OCDing about what others do or do not. If you can't, you are damaged «inside» «head».

Is "live and let die" such a hard to grasp concept?

it is cause u'r just nit picking what is okay an what is not, i'm sure u'r in the threads for hnm's to be pops cause no one wants to get outclaimed by bots. so lets remove hnm's or how to claim right because people cheating? what next i need to buy my account to catch up to your pl'ing. what u say has nothing to do with anything, it is either play the game or don't. and my head ...is very fine thank you. don't insult cause theres a loop hole for you that makes u feel like your not cheating. an lol i can't lie i loved pl's in my groups in ffxi, don't make it right. create a system that is easier to level without them if the idea is let them level faster, don't go and give a really retarted way to do it.

also paying to get pl or getting pl is no different ...u'r saying is people with friends willing to are more relevant to the process then paying some one 20bucks, or paying them 100k gils witch say is the same thing lol. plus in all reality these situations aren't what happens, yeah u level up a friend no biggy few hours here and there. then there is players duel boxing class after class. threes a thin line in what is right and wrong there.

[Ilean]

it is cause u'r just nit picking what is okay an what is not, i'm sure u'r in the threads for hnm's to be pops cause no one wants to get outclaimed by bots. so lets remove hnm's or how to claim right because people cheating? what next i need to buy my account to catch up to your pl'ing. what u say has nothing to do with anything, it is either play the game or don't. and my head ...is very fine thank you. don't insult cause theres a loop hole for you that makes u feel like your not cheating. an lol i can't lie i loved pl's in my groups in ffxi, don't make it right. create a system that is easier to level without them if the idea is let them level faster, don't go and give a really retarted way to do it.

also paying to get pl or getting pl is no different ...u'r saying is people with friends willing to are more relevant to the process then paying some one 20bucks, or paying them 100k gils witch say is the same thing lol. plus in all reality these situations aren't what happens, yeah u level up a friend no biggy few hours here and there. then there is players duel boxing class after class. threes a thin line in what is right and wrong there.

TL;DR again but for 3 lines

I do no tell what is right or wrong. IMO everything that doesn't (incoming caps) DIRECTLY interfere with my ability to play the game the way I want to is right. Unlike you, there isn't a nagging voice in my head hurting me because some people in some zone are all PLing themselves to death.

Also bots are the problem, not HNMs. If SE can't handle bots, they can *gasp* give us instanced alternative so we can enjoy HNM fights and drops.

Pathetic how some people can't enjoy themselves unless the whole world ticks their way.

Pathetic.

[Murugan]

also to add how do u seperate pl'ing and duel boxing to be different then buying gil, or buying a made account or even botting? what is different? nothing outside that yoshi said it is ok to do.

Those things are all cheating, being power leveled is not cheating it is simply benefiting from the work of others. As long as you don't pay for a powerleveling service the two are completely different. RMT in a game is always wrong.

If I want to power level someone I don't see how that hurts anyone else because I am sacrificing my time and I am not exploiting some loophole that allows that person to level much faster. I honestly think if balanced right a good party chaining/linking mobs should be able to out level a power leveled group.

[Zenaku]

Those things are all cheating, being power leveled is not cheating it is simply benefiting from the work of others. As long as you don't pay for a powerleveling service the two are completely different. RMT in a game is always wrong.

If I want to power level someone I don't see how that hurts anyone else because I am sacrificing my time and I am not exploiting some loophole that allows that person to level much faster. I honestly think if balanced right a good party chaining/linking mobs should be able to out level a power leveled group.

It is cheating in my book if you just hit 20 mobs and the PL kill them all you gain all the EXP from all 20mob you can get 1-21 less 1hour of work. Before the update that mess up Guildleves i got 1-20 doing linking guildleves with me and my gf that took about 2hours of work that not bad why not leave the system how it was? but no now it's having someone powerlevel you, you can get 1-20 in less then 2hours due to the mobs having short repop now in 1.19 patch top of that everyone would be doing this way so everyone even new players would have to do it.

So i don't see why can't we have level-sync 8 members fighting mobs and then a powerlevel but one that only heals the party they can't attack the mob. That better and you still going to get high level up due exp chain and not stoping. VS getting someone to kill everything for you and you can get 8 account 20 within a short amount of time.

But w/e when the patch hit and everyone see this issue they make 10 + topic about it then yoshi-p would have to fix it and wait other month of work to fix this issue he made himself. Just like the guildleves remember that? low exp? then everyone complain about it? but he said it was not the way to level then he fix it so it give little more exp?

what about the behest? we could do them every 30mins and now he made it so we can only do it every 1hour again due to the 5min timer before you can do it again come on he doing something good then he go back and take it away.

but w/e i'll see what happen when the patch hit and see if it good or bad but i know this not going to turn out very good.