[dev1026] Please reconsider level sync "Then allowing power leveling"

[Zenaku]

I don't see him trolling either.

Whining? Definitely.

Hence the name, Gold Member ZenaQQ!

It's funny what you people call QQ is really talking about issue and starting up a conversation about issue and way to fix them. Even if you don't find it a issue other may and maybe even SE are trying to find idea for it but not telling us.

@Murugan you don't have to agree with me the the point of this topic is to start up conversation and talk about issue or why you don't find this a issue and give a reason too it. But what people do is look at the first and last line or read it all and say "I dislike this shut up noob" This is dumb get out of here and go back to FFXI. It's seem you can't have a intellectual conversation with anyone without them blowing it out of proportion. The point of the forums is to start a topic on what you like fix or stuff you think is a issue then others can come in talk about it and say it should be done like this or that or i don't think it should be fix with a reason why.

But it's seem you can't have this on the forums so i'm not even going to try anymore i'm just going to play the game and post on topic and give information on what i think it should be done about it.


No point in having this open anymore all i'm doing is fighting off people calling me a troll when there the one being one. This is why SE never listen to there player base why should they when 99.99% don't even give anything useful or maybe it just on here due to the game being f2p who knows but w/e pointless to even try.

-Requesting Lock-

[DonMega]

I think level sync would be good to add in addition to the new claim system, level sync was one of those things added when i was playing FFXI that made me say hell yeah great idea.

[weeble]

even though it is probably a bit late and yoshi and the team already sinking this game into another crap hole choice, i'd like to say i agree with the op. pl'ing shouldn't exist in mmo's i'm sorry it sucks, by the end of ffxi every party had a pl in it or a duel boxer and it sucked and was stupid. and now they just starting off the game with them instead of years later making it truly wanted or needed.

level sync was the way to fix this, want to party with "friend" then do it by turning down to his level, not pushing a rank 1 to 50 in half a week for him to not even know what half his moves and spells do. even if it's your 8th job max u shouldn't be pl'ing it should be faster yes but not by that means, it should be by newer moves or being able to use both jobs moves like we have now. first class rank 1-20 lot harder then after u have multiple classes that range.

again this game keeps making changes that don't seem like they in any way in a good direction, is hard to see a good future for the game, but i don't know really how it will all work and how other things with work with it all, so we will see i guess. yes man yoshi i think really wants all your monies is all i thinks and he will plop out the dungiest game of all times to get his goal done.

[Zenaku]

even though it is probably a bit late and yoshi and the team already sinking this game into another crap hole choice, i'd like to say i agree with the op. pl'ing shouldn't exist in mmo's i'm sorry it sucks, by the end of ffxi every party had a pl in it or a duel boxer and it sucked and was stupid. and now they just starting off the game with them instead of years later making it truly wanted or needed.

level sync was the way to fix this, want to party with "friend" then do it by turning down to his level, not pushing a rank 1 to 50 in half a week for him to not even know what half his moves and spells do. even if it's your 8th job max u shouldn't be pl'ing it should be faster yes but not by that means, it should be by newer moves or being able to use both jobs moves like we have now. first class rank 1-20 lot harder then after u have multiple classes that range.

again this game keeps making changes that don't seem like they in any way in a good direction, is hard to see a good future for the game, but i don't know really how it will all work and how other things with work with it all, so we will see i guess. yes man yoshi i think really wants all your monies is all i thinks and he will plop out the dungiest game of all times to get his goal done.

he making this more casual then wow o.o and that hard to believe but it's true. Look at wow it's have 12+mil players and it's casual. You don't have to be even more casual to the point that you can just get a 50 to pl you max level with a few days. All you going to do is bored people to death how easy the game is.

But once again no one complaining but once the patch goes live you going to see 10-20 topic about the same or at least 50% of the issue i'm having here and you wont see much people saying "Go back to ffxi" stop QQ shut up troll like how you see here on my topic but you know whatever i can care less people wont care to they see it for themselves.

Once again requesting lock "No one want to talk about the issue so better off locking it"

[weeble]

it's cause to some it don't sound bad yet, but it will be. some not seen games with same issues either, and the biggest problem i think is simple, most the votes probably come from rmt, botters, pl'ers, afk'ers, cheats and people who duel box and use multiple accounts. plus the games direction is already in motion most questions or votes or threads in forums won't make a huge impact but even if it did matter most wont realize till it's already to late.

it also doesn't really matter how many players wow has, in my opinion most the players in it are there cause it was and still is one of the best cash crops. i could be wrong but that is my guess to why u would run back to that game then even playing a new mmo that is even at worse a clone ..with new gameplay, lore, story and endgames.

let them call me troll all they wants also lol, if we wrong we wrong, if we right we right, the only thing that really makes a person a troll is majority vote and i don't need to be majority. but lol i'm still holding strong waiting to see this final product when they finally say ok here it is, gimme 16bucks a month now please. so i can say ok or lmao pee on my game disc and set it a flame.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

people need to stop reading translations done by others and not the main FFXIV staff, it is starting to flood with miss information. That and people really....... already with the "I dont like the new system" when it has not even gone green yet, and we dont even know if what some of you are thinking is going to happen will happen. Why in a dev's right mind would they promote power leveling in their own MMORPG, it does not even make sense.

[Zenaku]

it's cause to some it don't sound bad yet, but it will be. some not seen games with same issues either, and the biggest problem i think is simple, most the votes probably come from rmt, botters, pl'ers, afk'ers, cheats and people who duel box and use multiple accounts. plus the games direction is already in motion most questions or votes or threads in forums won't make a huge impact but even if it did matter most wont realize till it's already to late.

it also doesn't really matter how many players wow has, in my opinion most the players in it are there cause it was and still is one of the best cash crops. i could be wrong but that is my guess to why u would run back to that game then even playing a new mmo that is even at worse a clone ..with new gameplay, lore, story and endgames.

let them call me troll all they wants also lol, if we wrong we wrong, if we right we right, the only thing that really makes a person a troll is majority vote and i don't need to be majority. but lol i'm still holding strong waiting to see this final product when they finally say ok here it is, gimme 16bucks a month now please. so i can say ok or lmao pee on my game disc and set it a flame.

I can't agree with you more it may not sound like a issue now but i'm sure it going to be. I see this happening /sh "Powerlevel" can i have it? 100k a hour /tell or just add level sync and you would see "Level Sync 25" do you need it? 6 out of 8 /tell thank you. Everyone going to be soloing and just having a powerlevel. I love how people are if you don't want to do it don't o.o but how am i going to party with others if that all there doing? because it the best way to level up and i be low level vs all my friends who just following what other are doing?

Look at FFXI the sub job system was should to mix it up guess what happen? As a DD you need War too 50 then you have to get /NIN and you have to get /THF for farming and /Dancer for soloing. So when everyone doing it and you can't do what you want then the players force you to do it. Maybe yoshi-p does not understand this? he like if you want someone helping then ok but it's not like we can /sh for party even if we do they ask "Do you have a powerlevel?" and if you say no they like "No thanks"

I'll wait for patch to go live and see how it going to turn out but just trying to give SE a head up and maybe they go oh we never thought of that maybe we should rethink this then. That the point of the forums and that why yoshi-p wants i can't care less if i'm wrong or right i just want other to talk about it and see what they think about it then just hearing zenaQQ go back to ffxi get out of here troll when there the one trolling lol.

It's true what you say the most vote topic are the dumbest idea and the lowest vote sometime are good idea then when some person repost about the same thing with a few change here and there it get 250vote in a matter of few hours right around the patch went live not seeing that would happen with my post but that pretty much what happening with a few issue the few pass patch that went live.

Like how they mess up leves and they did not give good sp? because yoshi-p said that just for casual and not the main way of leveling up what happen? people made 5-10 topic and yoshi-p change it i wonder why? i thought it was just for casual? or he just got worry that everyone going to stop playing if he does not fix it? i wonder why he ended up changing his view of it lol.

I'll wait and see that all we can do maybe it's not that bad.

[Zenaku]

people need to stop reading translations done by others and not the main FFXIV staff, it is starting to flood with miss information. That and people really....... already with the "I dont like the new system" when it has not even gone green yet, and we dont even know if what some of you are thinking is going to happen will happen. Why in a dev's right mind would they promote power leveling in their own MMORPG, it does not even make sense.

Huh when did i read a translation from a person?

"

Alrighty, Yoshida made a large post regarding the new claim system this morning and we've been working on getting you guys the translation - sorry about the delay.

"


that from a dev team not just some random person. Yoshi-p pretty much said they promote power leveling and if they want to reach max level faster then it's up too the players. so i don't know what you mean by miss information.

And who ever read your post and like it also did not know it was a dev and yoshi-p said he promote this type of powerleveling.

Btw the point of the forums is to talk about the new system and say we don't like it and come up with our own ideas and others to talk about and on the same topic and come up with there own ideas also about how they should or not be done. that the point of the forums or did you also forget this? i mean come on people yoshi-p have said to talk about it that why there a dev tag for it "dev1026" it's for us to talk about the issue and dislike and like about it.

not to just troll every topic we don't like with "QQ" TROLL!!! "GO BACK TO FFXI" and such ; ;

[Zoltan]

It's sad that Yoshi-P has to deal with these types of problems by trying to cater to the masses.

"In contrast, there are players who believe that, “Players grow together with their characters,” “If other players are power leveling, leveling up becomes meaningless,” “Power leveling will become a necessary part of the game,” and “Power leveling will disrupt areas for proper party play.”

He should just say: "Power levelling sucks!"

Again, SE is not learning from their past mistakes.

FFXI allowed power levelling and it was abused, but it was not half as bad as the current way FFXIV power levelling happens.

When higher level characters can kill monsters in a party and the lower level jobs do NOTHING and level up from the higher level work that is not fair and should not be allowed. Instead of "helping" by healing from outside of the party, the PLer is doing ALL OF THE WORK. This should not be allowed under any circumstance!!

I know this will be controversial, but one needs to look at a real world perspective. PLing should be like mentoring, not cheating. Do you want your children or their classmates tutored or to have them hire someone to take the tests? How would you feel if your children were doing their own homework and studying hard while their neighbor plays video games all day and hires someone to take their tests for them. Yes, your child will be smarter in the long run, but it won't be a fair system. The life isn't fair argument does not apply. It's how you design systems and apply rules that are applicable here.

The main problem is that they do not have any method to enforce rules other than a ridiculous Special Task Force.

I never played WoW, but understand that they have something called Wardens who are like GMs, but have real authority to ban people.

If they really want to make it easier to level jobs, then I suggest that they add Fields of Valor and Adventuring Fellows to FFXIV.

If there must be PLing as Yoshi-P is intent on allowing, then it should be like FFXI and allow healing from outside the party. We need more people levelling healer jobs anyway.

[syntaxlies]

But i be force because everyone else be doing it just like i said on the last post. Due to everyone getting max level in a short amount of time and if i do it my way i wont reach them in time to do anything with them and when i do it be to late they be doing other new event that i wont have gear for. Level sync make everyone party together and even allow max level help out there low level friend without getting them max within a few days.


At the end they should really still add level-sync so people can party even if there not in the same level range do you guys at least agree with this? so people don't have to switch to a low level class just to party with a friend. Me and my gf always have to level up new class together when i only want to level up 1.

This way i can still be on my rank 36 and she can be on her level 20 class.

i know people who have been playing the game since launch and are not rank 50. they have no desire to lvl cap. No one has forced them to do so. You shouldn't think that just because others are doing something you have to.

now on to more important thing, hmm, what should i name my chocobo.