[dev1026] Please reconsider level sync "Then allowing power leveling"

[Nero]

Level sync was not perfect in FFXI but that was because the game was not designed for it and it came very late into the life cycle of the game. Here they have an opportunity to do it correctly and make sure content is balanced for it.

NO MMO out there is balanced enough for level sync. Level sync will always make ppl lazy and they will stay in easy Areas till they hit the Cap. There is nothing you can do against it if you can Levelsync to w/e Rank. With PL's you have to go on your own at one Point.. I never had a PL after L40ish, so it was just speeding up the lower Levels, nothing more. Afterwards you had to organize the Group, find a good Spot to get good SP, but the People actually had to focus and what they do.

Levelsync as reason for "so i can play with my friends" is the most cheap excuse ever. if you want to play with your friends.. wait till he reaches your level. i always do that and dont mind waiting, neither do my friends.

[AlexiaKidd]

NO MMO out there is balanced enough for level sync. Level sync will always make ppl lazy and they will stay in easy Areas till they hit the Cap. There is nothing you can do against it if you can Levelsync to w/e Rank. With PL's you have to go on your own at one Point.. I never had a PL after L40ish, so it was just speeding up the lower Levels, nothing more. Afterwards you had to organize the Group, find a good Spot to get good SP, but the People actually had to focus and what they do.

Levelsync as reason for "so i can play with my friends" is the most cheap excuse ever. if you want to play with your friends.. wait till he reaches your level. i always do that and dont mind waiting, neither do my friends.

Well as my lowest class is currently R36 if a friend was starting tomorrow then I would be waiting while so no it's not a cheap excuse. You say it can't be balance, how do you know? Couldn't they make it so at R20 the max SP you can get from mobs is 200 a kill then at R40 it is 400 a kill then adjust SP curves in line with this. Doing that would mean if you were R40 and synced to R20 then you would probably be getting half the SP an hour you could get as opposed to staying at your own rank and that's just off the top of my head. I am sure SE could think of something better or at least I would hope so as that's what they are getting paid to do.

[Nero]

Well as my lowest class is currently R36 if a friend was starting tomorrow then I would be waiting while so no it's not a cheap excuse.

36 can be reached in a couple Days.

You say it can't be balance, how do you know? Couldn't they make it so at R20 the max SP you can get from mobs is 200 a kill then at R40 it is 400 a kill then adjust SP curves in line with this.

Dont get me wrong, but that doesnt make sense at all. IF a group Levelsync to.. lets say R20, and then Switch that person out with another Mule to stay at that place, how would the lowered SP for R40 matter, if a Group of R45 Levelsyncs to a R20ish Mule to stay in the same Area over and over? That is what people did in FFXI, to stay in lowlevel Areas. And also the whole Revamp of the Areas and Zone would not matter and SE could stop that and put place just 1 Spot somewhere, where everyone can Rankup straight to 50, without knowing shit, slapping the same Mob for 50 Ranks.

The Point is, a Person would not grow with his Charakter if he stay in one Area for 50 Ranks. He will have Abilities he cant use due Levelsync, he wont even know them and at r50 he will be like "wtf.. how do i do this? how is this working?". The SP itself is not the Problem.

[Ilean]

So when you have a party with a r35 gladiator that has no idea how to do their job nor what half their skills do... then you will be QQ.

It's "baby-fieing" an already easy leveling system. I can't believe they are promoting power leveling... and at such an early state of the game.

As I said before, most people can learn how properly play a class in a very small fraction of the 1-50 grind.

Those who can't... The community will help to avoid them.

The fact is you guys who are dying to be able to grind for hundreds of hours just want all of us to be forced to do so, to need you, to have to play with you.

I am glad we are now being given an alternative. Go hire yourself some grinder friends if you need it so much.

[Zenaku]

f*** that.

Level sync was one of the first big mistakes, which have beeing made in FFXI. It was leading ppl to pt in lowlevel areas to the top ranks. Doing that will give us more ppl with 50's but unskilled like hell since they never touched harder fights and never got experience.

It is like Yoshi said... the Player will grow up with the Charakter. PL was always fine in FFXI.

Too bad they adding the system they made a post in the JP forums so your idea does not matter sadly. This system would help out with many people who have friends who are higher level and don't want to play a new class or just have everything 50 and they can't help there low level friends.

And seeing how they adding this system it does not matter you don't have to be a rocket science to know how to play your class and seeing how you can put on any spell at any level even if you stay in a party camp at 11 you still learn how to use all your WS,JA,Spell without issue.

Unlike FFXI where it was junk and it made people gimp due to it not level up the skill needed to play your job.

[Nero]

Too bad they adding the system they made a post in the JP forums so your idea does not matter sadly. This system would help out with many people who have friends who are higher level and don't want to play a new class or just have everything 50 and they can't help there low level friends.

Give me the quote where SE said, they are adding Levelsync.

[Zoltan]

It's right above. But for simplicity, here it is again:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post316825

I agree with AlexiaKidd and hope that they change their mind regarding the claiming system. It worked in FFXI.

Honestly, what do they plan to do about loot distribution whan mobs or NMs take more than one person to defeat? First attacker gets everything? That seems fair. Especially for the mages.

[Nero]

<_< I dont see a word about:

"Hey we will add Levelsync, so you can Sync down to whatever Rank and Party wherever"..

They say:

"system where it level syncs when entering a content,
system where it's easier to PT with same level range."

First Part: Which is pretty much similiar to Riverne Site #A and #B.
Second Part: Which say it will be easier not that it will be Levelsync.

You guys are ripping Stuff totally out of context. Beside that.. it was a Forumpost and it was translated. Is there anything on the "official Patchnotes" which says they will make a Levelsync-System, which allows you to Sync to whatever Rank, to let you SP whereever?

[Zenaku]

Give me the quote where SE said, they are adding Levelsync.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post316825

There you go

[Murugan]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post316825

There you go

This says nothing about an XI style level sync.

Note the part that says:

system where it level syncs when entering a content,

Meaning like Toto-rak for example you may be able to level synch rather than powering through it on a 50, or it could mean an entirely new type of content which would allow for level sync (such as CoP) with special level sync gear you could obtain.

I personally think level sync is a terrible idea and ruins group leveling. Power leveling is a cop out, but it alone has never ruined grouping in an MMO.