[dev1026] Please reconsider level sync "Then allowing power leveling"

[Xatsh]

Pwr lvling only really works until rank 24 honestly, after that it all falls apart. And although that is about 50% in numbers to 50 it is only like 8-12% of the total SP.

The whole pwrlvling only works because of the massive SP bonus pre 25, after that your SP will actually be higher sp/hr in a normal party then a pwrlvl.

Sp has a cap )10 levels) so a rank 25 getting sp from a rank 50 is going to be like 200-350sp/kill depending on the mob. And higher level mobs that give decent sp will not work in pwrlvl setting because there are simply not enough things to kill. Example Take a rank 30 person to Down's raptors and get ~25k/hr, take a rank 30 to a proper camp get ~25k/hr. This method is just not effective you are sacrificing a ton of time at no gain.

People did it in XI and nothing bad happened... and they did it in well every other mmo to a point as well. It is because 1 reason. At a point in all mmo pwrlvling is just 100% ineffective.

I will say I have pwrlvled probably over 80 people in my ls to around 18-20 and for 1 reason, so they can participate in our events. Rank 1-20 is solo and honestly most people I meet in-game do not want to do that. SO get them to 25 and get them doing leves, dungeons, Nms, grind partys in a group... and they enjoy the game alot more. Many people said they where at the verge of quitting Pre-25 before getting in my group... now they have multiple 50s.

While Pwrlvling is negative in some ways (gets ppl higher up with no knowledge of the game) in this case it gets them to a point they can truly play the game they way they want to, with others.

[Ilean]

PG13 version:

Level sync
Friend1: All I have to eat is 50 pieces of smelly old moldy rotten cheese. ^_^
Friend2: I'll eat half so we only eat 25 pieces of smelly old moldy rotten cheese each. <3

The new way
Friend1: All I have to eat is 50 pieces of smelly old moldy rotten cheese. ^_^
Friend2: Flush down the toilet, I'll order a pizza. <3

[Alexis_Arteme]

Pwr lvling only really works until rank 24 honestly, after that it all falls apart. And although that is about 50% in numbers to 50 it is only like 8-12% of the total SP.

The whole pwrlvling only works because of the massive SP bonus pre 25, after that your SP will actually be higher sp/hr in a normal party then a pwrlvl.

Sp has a cap )10 levels) so a rank 25 getting sp from a rank 50 is going to be like 200-350sp/kill depending on the mob. And higher level mobs that give decent sp will not work in pwrlvl setting because there are simply not enough things to kill. Example Take a rank 30 person to Down's raptors and get ~25k/hr, take a rank 30 to a proper camp get ~25k/hr. This method is just not effective you are sacrificing a ton of time at no gain.

People did it in XI and nothing bad happened... and they did it in well every other mmo to a point as well. It is because 1 reason. At a point in all mmo pwrlvling is just 100% ineffective.

I will say I have pwrlvled probably over 80 people in my ls to around 18-20 and for 1 reason, so they can participate in our events. Rank 1-20 is solo and honestly most people I meet in-game do not want to do that. SO get them to 25 and get them doing leves, dungeons, Nms, grind partys in a group... and they enjoy the game alot more. Many people said they where at the verge of quitting Pre-25 before getting in my group... now they have multiple 50s.

While Pwrlvling is negative in some ways (gets ppl higher up with no knowledge of the game) in this case it gets them to a point they can truly play the game they way they want to, with others.

Pretty much this. The assumption that SE is "half-***" anything at this point is the words of a forum troll.

[Zenaku]

Pwr lvling only really works until rank 24 honestly, after that it all falls apart. And although that is about 50% in numbers to 50 it is only like 8-12% of the total SP.

The whole pwrlvling only works because of the massive SP bonus pre 25, after that your SP will actually be higher sp/hr in a normal party then a pwrlvl.

Sp has a cap )10 levels) so a rank 25 getting sp from a rank 50 is going to be like 200-350sp/kill depending on the mob. And higher level mobs that give decent sp will not work in pwrlvl setting because there are simply not enough things to kill. Example Take a rank 30 person to Down's raptors and get ~25k/hr, take a rank 30 to a proper camp get ~25k/hr. This method is just not effective you are sacrificing a ton of time at no gain.

People did it in XI and nothing bad happened... and they did it in well every other mmo to a point as well. It is because 1 reason. At a point in all mmo pwrlvling is just 100% ineffective.

I will say I have pwrlvled probably over 80 people in my ls to around 18-20 and for 1 reason, so they can participate in our events. Rank 1-20 is solo and honestly most people I meet in-game do not want to do that. SO get them to 25 and get them doing leves, dungeons, Nms, grind partys in a group... and they enjoy the game alot more. Many people said they where at the verge of quitting Pre-25 before getting in my group... now they have multiple 50s.

While Pwrlvling is negative in some ways (gets ppl higher up with no knowledge of the game) in this case it gets them to a point they can truly play the game they way they want to, with others.

explain this too me what i read was

I could be level 25 and get someone level 50 which would be in my party. I would go kill mobs that are for my level range which give me good amount of exp. So let's say i attack 10 mobs around my level and the person who level 50 "Outside party" Attack each mob and kill them. Wont i get all the great EXP from all 10 mobs? even if the exp go downhill from 21+?

[Ilean]

20 years ago i was born so i don't know how that make any sense . I did see the translation i link it in my Opening post. I don't have a 20year old vision i have a causal but a middle ground it should be easy to level but not to the point that you gain to so level within a short amount of time.

Does everyone just want to get max level as quick as they can? is that the point of everyone playing a game? i like that too but they have to be a limit getting max range should not be done within a few weeks of gameplay. Yoshi-p said he did not want to make it long but also not make it so short this powerlevel i can get it done pretty quick. faster then me soloing by myself.

He said he did this to fix the issue of new event he was coming up with. Why could he not make it like FFXI? where if you attack A it's yours but if you attack 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 you still get reward/EXP? not if someone come and take it from you but they wont get any EXP/Reward if the first person attack it too it repop. This would make it so you can go and party and get 10+ mobs and exp chain and get level up quick but still not as quick as getting someone who max level and killing everything with 1 shot.

There so many way he could have deal with this but he ended up taking the easy way out. Just like everything in this game it done easy,cheap and half-***

Blah blah XI blah blah oldschool blah blah QQ.

Yes, most people want to get to max level ASAP. Some people like to pretend playing this game is rocket science and you have to train your body and mind to master that new ability you get every 2 ranks. In reality any average IQ gamer will master a class in much less than 10% of the time it takes for him to get to r50.

IMO it's understandable that people rather be r50 and have all the abilities and use them in a dungeon raid, and not stuck killing a million squirrels.

[Zenaku]

Pretty much this. The assumption that SE is "half-***" anything at this point is the words of a forum troll.

If you talking about me it's because it's true they could have done it many other ways without doing it like they said. Yoshi-p said it was so his other event that he going to add would be easy done. I understand it would take longer and such and the crystal tool is hard to deal with. But at the end it's that they don't want to waste that much amount of time and do it the fastest way.

Please stop calling everyone a troll you using the word wrong i'm asking question / making my topic of my idea to see what other think if they dislike it then find a better way this issue could be done that everyone can agree on. "that the point of this topic" Troll would start a topic and get 50+ page of people fighting each other and the person who start it does not even talk again how many time have this happen? i'm still here talking and agreeing and trying to understand what other want and try to fit that in to a even better idea.

that the point of the forums to start with to talk.

[Zenaku]

Blah blah XI blah blah oldschool blah blah QQ.

Yes, most people want to get to max level ASAP. Some people like to pretend playing this game is rocket science and you have to train your body and mind to master that new ability you get every 2 ranks. In reality any average IQ gamer will master a class in much less than 10% of the time it takes for him to get to r50.

IMO it's understandable that people rather be r50 and have all the abilities and use them in a dungeon raid, and not stuck killing a million squirrels.

Yes i can understand that 100% but they could come up with other ways you don't have to kill million Type A mob. In FFXI i only kill 1 type of mob for a few level range sometime i saw them again at high level but they look diff and the area was new. Even in WoW when questing i kill diff type of mob as i level up and even in dungeon so i don't see the issue. getting someone with a pl to get max quick wont fix it you still be killing the same amount of mob it would have take you just a less the time but i guess i see your point lol.

I just think it could be done other way that it can be casual and without making it so everyone just solo/ have pl.

And please stop saying i'm old school i may say old school stuff but at least i can agree with others. I'm trying to come up with idea to fix the issue of this game that they could add later.

[Ilean]

Yes i can understand that 100% but they could come up with other ways you don't have to kill million Type A mob. In FFXI i only kill 1 type of mob for a few level range sometime i saw them again at high level but they look diff and the area was new. Even in WoW when questing i kill diff type of mob as i level up and even in dungeon so i don't see the issue. getting someone with a pl to get max quick wont fix it you still be killing the same amount of mob it would have take you just a less the time but i guess i see your point lol.

I just think it could be done other way that it can be casual and without making it so everyone just solo/ have pl

1) lol QQmoar
2) go back to xi
3) "I want to make it clear now that I believe there is no way to settle this argument in a way that everybody will be 100% satisfied with."

Also you are pretty dense if you think it's just about varying mob types. It's the inconsequence of the grind fights what makes them worthless as content. Go meditate on the reasons it's called grind.

[Zenaku]

1) lol QQmoar
2) go back to xi
3) "I want to make it clear now that I believe there is no way to settle this argument in a way that everybody will be 100% satisfied with."

Also you are pretty dense if you think it's just about varying mob types. It's the inconsequence of the grind fights what makes them worthless as content. Go meditate on the reasons it's called grind.

What the point of the forums? So people can come up with a idea other can say ya i like it but maybe it be better done this way. Someone else come and take both the people idea and make it better then when SE see everyone point of view and idea they make there own idea and at the end you can satisfied more people.

But no this is not what people are doing on the forums are they? You all are just saying Stop trolling, Go back to FFXI , Stop white knighting, go back to wow, shut up casual player, shut up hardcore player. What the point of the forums if it not to come up with some way to fix the issue at hand? so SE can come up with even a better idea with our idea that we talk about? Even if you don't see it as a issue the day the patch come up you going to see 50 topic how lame the system is o.o the point of the forums is to get whatever info they give us and make them change anything before they release it. If not he just going to release it and then waste more time later fixing it due to everyone making 50 topic about it like every patch that come out or am i wrong and not seeing this happening here every patch?

All you people are doing on here is going to each topic saying "Dislike this" "Dumb idea" Troll" Blah blah blah "Oh he just QQ because he dislike the new system. I'm doing what the forums are made for so please once again don't post if you don't have something to give. Besides fighting with me why don't you take my idea come with a even better idea so SE can take that into account is that so hard? or did everyone forget what the point of the forums to start with?

[indira]

why do we need level sync in a new game and a game where you can SP/xp solo ??

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