Formal Letter to SE about RMT situation.

[Anapingofness]

/signed
I'm also one of those people who gets spammed practically every minute.
I know SE is taking action against RMT. It just feels as if no matter what they do it isn't enough. I will say that I think gil buyers deserve to be perma-banned. After all, if they didn't buy gil we wouldn't have this situation.

I also think that we should have a better system for rmt/botting/hacking/etc reporting.

I've said it before, a right click + report rmt feature would go a long way. Presently, reporting rmt is very tedious and it takes too long. Another thing that would help is an account wide mute that would when an rmt is reported an undisclosed amount of times.
Also, auto deleting or at least somehow indicating that RMT on our black lists have been banned would be a huge plus.

[Angel_Eyes]

/sign. The amount of tell spams is ridiculous!

[Havenae]

As always, players are insisting developers to resolve problems created by players.

Ban gil buyers in your FC, boot them from party, refuse to party them and shame them openly. (yes I agree this is pretty extreme)

Like shark fins or any other endangered species. STOP the eating (buying) and the killing (selling) will STOP!

Boy I wish I saw the world in black and white like you.


Yes players buy gil. But that's not really the only variable involved here now is it? Players need a reason to want to buy gil or need a reason to feel it is necessary to buy gil. Who does the responsibility for that fall upon? After all you do realize SE released a game with a free player market in which all players can be (if they choose) to be entirely self-suffcient. They can advance every crafting profession to cap on just one character. They can farm whatever materials they could ever need and dont even have to compete for nodes since they're entirely character based. This essentially created a very WEAK economic model for the player economy. As a result gil doesnt exactly come falling from the sky in coffers just from normal play, at least not at the level where players set prices on the items that really make a difference (which stem primarily from SE deciding to make a few key materials quite a bit harder to come by).

So no this isn't JUST a player created problem. It takes a little from SE's theory of design as well. But that really is irrelevant when you get down to it. RMT exist in every MMO that is any kind of successful so whether or not you have buyers, they're still going to advertise here. In fact if you could actually get EVERYONE who buys to stop buying, the spam would probably actually increase. Why? Because they're going to wonder where all their buyers went, but they're not going to worry about that for too long because their solution will just be to try to go find more buyers. In the form of MORE SPAM. So Stop people from buying, fine. But that is not going to do anything for the advertisement spam at this point. and I'm more than willing to bet that if you asked the question "Which came first the tell spam or the gil buyer?" The answer is going to be the tell spam. Otherwise how is the buyer going to know the service is out there?

Furthermore that advertisement spam from botting software. Which to be honest isn't something we, as players can combat. Not without some tools that SE has to give us first.

So, climb off that really tall horse you got there.

[Santherelle]

You have my vote for right click + report rmt

[Zabuza]

Thanks for the support everyone . Closing in on 100 sigs now.

[Ghishlain]

/signed + liked - It's gotten a lot worst on the Gilgamesh front over the last few months and would like to see some culling, or at least implement some tools that allows players to combat the spam much better.

[FedeMax]

Unfortunate the biggest part of the problem right now is SE preparations for 3.0. Currently you can download the game for free, at the same time you can play the game for 14 days for free. That gave a big window for RMT accounts to be made without any investment of the RMT people except for time. We will be will have plenty of Bots around until SE stops allowing free accounts to be made.

/sign

[Brightsayge]

Boy I wish I saw the world in black and white like you.


Yes players buy gil. But that's not really the only variable involved here now is it? Players need a reason to want to buy gil...

So, climb off that really tall horse you got there.

this is a 100% player problem, if players didn't buy gil then prices wouldn't be so inflated. ppl gotta have their stuff now...

[Aerowaffle]

this is a 100% player problem, if players didn't buy gil then prices wouldn't be so inflated. ppl gotta have their stuff now...

But the player-base is hardly a singular blob with a single consciousness. The people who want the RMT problem fixed would probably ban any buyer if they had the knowledge of and the power to.

So we're forced to make posts on the forum to attempt to get our voice heard by SE, who actually has the power to investigate and ban players.

[illu45]

this is a 100% player problem, if players didn't buy gil then prices wouldn't be so inflated. ppl gotta have their stuff now...

I don't disagree, but, with the exception of bugs, almost all of the problems you find in an MMO are player-created. Using cheats, griefing, harassment, doxxing, economy inflation etc. are all pretty much 'player-created'. But I don't think that means that players should expect devs to do nothing about these problems.