Formal Letter to SE about RMT situation.

[Avin00]

So this would be true if gil sellers worked alone but they don't these are battery farm operations with dozens of people probably more. What they would do is stagger the level creation process to insure you are constantly being bombarded.

For anyone who is interested Pheonix has a very minor problem with gil sellers I get maybe 1 friend request or tell in a whole day of playing. I thought it might be because the population on Pheonix is low but this is not the case and we boast one of the highest and interestingly where some of the largest problem servers for lack of a better word have some of the smallest population. Now I'm going off of websites that may be outdated but it was rather interesting to see that particular correlation and I wonder if it has something to do with how the automated banning works behind the scenes.

[Chibilidawg]

From this interview:

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._yoshida_this/


From this interview:

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._yoshida_this/


Yoshida Regarding RMT Spam

"We actually have a special task force dedicated to control and get rid of much spam, and control it within the game and not only the incidents that are reported by our players. Internally we have a special group always checking, allways researching, allways going after RMT spam and trying to find them and strike them and make sure to removed this incidents as much as possible. We also are going through with like an undercover investigation where we try to find out larger groups of people who are doing the RMT spam and try to control it from there as well. Also from a daily basis we are banning a few thousands accounts and tens of thousands of accounts per month so on the players inpoint it may not seem that the incidents have reduced but we are doing that best to control it, there is a lot of RMT spam thats happening so we have to be continously vigilant in order to stop them and avoid those incidents."


I don't think he or they know we want solutions to significantly reduce the /shout & /tell spam from gil-sellers...

Which makes me seriously frustrated & has me wondering... do they not understand that the bans mean next-to-nothing if the spam remains roughly the same?

All we see is RMT /tell spam every minute of every hour.


I don't get what's so hard about implementing:

1) a /tell filter for FC Members & Friends Only.

2) an auto-blacklisting, right-click report RMT feature.

3) a /shout & /yell restriction until after "Call of the Sea" has been completed.

Among other fantastic ideas...

Speaking of #3, they could make it to where the feature doesn't unlock until after having beaten Sastasha in the MSQ.


Bans won't solve the problem, they'll just keep coming back stronger & multiplying.

We, the players, care most about not having our chat pinged every 30 seconds with a huge wall-of-text gil sale promotion.

[Tagihi]

From this interview:



I don't get what's so hard about implementing:



1) a /tell filter for FC Members & Friends Only.

2) an auto-blacklisting, right-click report RMT feature.

3) a /shout & /yell restriction until after "Call of the Sea" has been completed.

well they should do this but nr 1 maybe would be better if all the free account's can not send any friend request and neither whisper other player untill certin level like 10 - 15 when finally can enter dungeons w/e.
Iknow that can upset legal players but since player who selling wanna destroy oppertunity for others then there is no otherway.

get rid completely of RMT is not easy, Even if we report that shout 1 min later he deletes the character and remake new.

[Tiggy]

I don't think he or they know we want solutions to significantly reduce the /shout & /tell spam from gil-sellers...

Of course they do. How ignorant do you think they are? They have said in the past, and have acted in ways that support this, that they see what happens here and the forum mods take concerns to the dev team. They even have a guy on reddit that does the same. Also, considering the ways they've made RMT adapt over the last year due to changes to the game to suppress them, and the rmt task force bans supports the fact they are aware of the problem.

Are they as effective as people would like them to be? No, of course not. However, that doesn't suggest what-so-ever that they are ignorant of a problem that plagues every mmo ever. That's just not realistic.

[slml320]

Of course they do. How ignorant do you think they are? They have said in the past, and have acted in ways that support this, that they see what happens here and the forum mods take concerns to the dev team. They even have a guy on reddit that does the same. Also, considering the ways they've made RMT adapt over the last year due to changes to the game to suppress them, and the rmt task force bans supports the fact they are aware of the problem.

Are they as effective as people would like them to be? No, of course not. However, that doesn't suggest what-so-ever that they are ignorant of a problem that plagues every mmo ever. That's just not realistic.

ahh tiggy we meet again let me ask how ignorant are you to think they will or are going to do something.. when its been near on 2 years as I'm sure you are aware problems still there but more so its getting worse not better!!

[Sicno]

To be fair considering right now they have a hard release date on the expansion and have all resources trying to finish it they like ARE doing "all they can" at the moment. Doing all they can and being successful at halting the RMT are two different things.

Yeah, but this problem didn't start yesterday

Of course they do. How ignorant do you think they are? They have said in the past, and have acted in ways that support this, that they see what happens here and the forum mods take concerns to the dev team. They even have a guy on reddit that does the same.

Care to share where exactly?

[Tiggy]

Care to share where exactly?

Two posts later I did share some off the top of my head. You can subjectively say they have been ineffective as this thread points out, but you can not subjectively say they've done nothing at all or haven't tried. The notion that they are unaware of the problem comes from nothing but an angry mind. Not from a place factual of truth.

Either way the reality stands. Nothing will happen until 3.0 launches. They may be just as ineffective then as they are now, but it will absolutely wait until then. Mark my words.

[Niwashi]

Nothing will happen until 3.0 launches.

If it happens when 3.0 launches, that will suffice. If it happens after 3.0 launches, it will be too late by then, as SE will already have lost a lot of the new customers who start on the expansion's release day. This is the sort of thing that could completely ruin the expansion's release. That's why it's so important to make sure SE understands the magnitude of the problem now. The features to control this need to be in the launch day code.

[SummerSkye]

Why are they all level 50 Black Mages? Each of those black mages in those pictures are active, paid accounts? or are they paid for by the players they stole the accounts from? As much as I hate RMT and am very vocally against it, I really do not understand how it works.

[Riepah]

Why are they all level 50 Black Mages? Each of those black mages in those pictures are active, paid accounts? or are they paid for by the players they stole the accounts from? As much as I hate RMT and am very vocally against it, I really do not understand how it works.

Considering that you can't even log in from a different device with a different IP without confirming the e-mail address associated with the account and changing your password, I very much doubt that the accounts are stolen. So unless they have a way to generate valid CD keys, those accounts must've purchased the game from somewhere.