Formal Letter to SE about RMT situation.

[Thayos]

A user-defined chat filter would be amazing.

[Tiggy]

Oh no! If you guys hadn't made this thread they would never have been aware! /sarcasm.

Seriously they are aware. How ignorant do you guys think Square is? They had this same problem when they ran XI and they are well aware of it. This isn't a unique problem for them that they are completely unaware of. The extreme increase in banning's from the last wave is clearly indicative of that fact.

The addition of yet ANOTHER one of these threads is literally adding zero value. They are already well aware. Making it a "formal letter" won't change anything nor will the petition that it somehow became. (On that note you may want to think about what your goal is a bit better. Is it a formal letter or a petition? Seriously) The only thing we can really do is wait for them to even get a chance to look at the problem. A new thread about this every week isn't helping anyone.

A lot of disconnects from reality in this thread just because you're annoyed. Think about the situation a little deeper and ask yourself if you REALLY think square isn't aware of the problem already before you start yet another thread. It's beyond likely that they are just too busy with the expansion to deal with the sudden influx of spammers that coincided directly with the 2.55 release fast enough for each of you to be anywhere near content. It's only been a week since that patch and since that uptick in activity after all so why don't people try to find some patience. It's a virtue after all. It's not like Square is crazy busy finishing up a massive expansion or anything..oh yeah.

[Zabuza]

Oh no! If you guys hadn't made this thread they would never have been aware! /sarcasm.

Seriously they are aware. How ignorant do you guys think Square is? They had this same problem when they ran XI and they are well aware of it. This isn't a unique problem for them that they are completely unaware of. The extreme increase in banning's from the last wave is clearly indicative of that fact. It's highly likely the engine is already doing as much as it can to curtail spam and won't be capable of more until the program it to actually be capable of more. Which, considering their are polishing off their expansion at the moment, means it will likely not happen in the extreme short term.

A lot of disconnects from reality in this thread just because you're annoyed. It's not the end of the world. Simmer down.

Try being on a server where you get spammed every single minute of the day. I know for a fact Balmung is a relatively "safe" server in comparison to smaller ones.

Also, this has gone on long enough don't you think? It HAS been going on since FFXI. So over a decade and they still either haven't figured it out, or don't care enough to deal with this seriously. So yeah, I want them to know how many people are unhappy at this very moment because of their policies when it comes to RMT. If you think I'm wasting my time that's your opinion but there's no harm whatsoever in trying. I'm done taking it sitting down. Sometimes, to get things done you have to stand up and make yourself heard. If this petition of mine makes even a tiny impact on the minds of the devs and SE, I'll have accomplished what I set out to do. If it makes no impact whatsoever? Well then, at least I tried instead of just giving up and timidly being a constant yes man for SE when they are so obviously in the wrong here.

[Tiggy]

Try being on a server where you get spammed every single minute of the day. I know for a fact Balmung is a relatively "safe" server in comparison to smaller ones.

The uptick in spamming was real last Tuesday with 2.55 on Balmung as well. Don't presume sir. It doesn't change anything about the rest of my message though. Square knows already. This thread literally is nothing more than a place to blow of steam. The mere existence of this thread presumes that square is not aware of the problem so as I said above...

How ignorant do you guys think Square is?

We've had over a dozen of these threads already.

By all means please continue acting like every mmo doesn't struggle with this same problem. A severe disconnect from reality right there. Any expectations for Square to suddenly beat what all MMO's have fought against from the beginning is unrealistic at a minimum. Regardless what the game should be doesn't change what it is. What it is is a game having spam problems. What it is also is a game where it's entire development team is knee deep in expansion content. So it's equally unrealistic from everyone here to expect a quick turn around.

I'm not saying it isn't annoying. I'm saying the expectations from the players for a sudden and immediate fix at this exact point in time is completely unrealistic. People need to simmer down and let the expansion come out before making any more demands what-so-ever from the dev team. They've set a date already and they have to stick to it. RMT spam or no RMT spam.

[Zabuza]

The uptick in spamming was real last Tuesday with 2.55 on Balmung as well. Don't presume sir. It doesn't change anything about the rest of my message though. Square knows already. This thread literally is nothing more than a place to blow of steam. The mere existence of this thread presumes that square is not aware of the problem so as I said above...



We've had over a dozen of these threads already.

Only a dozen? I get way more RMTs spam messages than that. As long as SE doesn't address this problem properly, they deserve to have constant threads made about this issue sorry to say. No matter what you say you're not going to get me to give up on this. A lot of other people disagree with you as well, hence all the signatures I have here.

Also, can you honestly say you get spammed every single minute on average on the Balmung server? 24/7? With shouts in every city? That's the situation on Zalera atm. And no, that's not acceptable at all, I'm sorry. This is not something for us, the players, to just shut up and take like good little boys and girls.

[Tiggy]

Only a dozen? I get way more RMTs spam messages than that. As long as SE doesn't address this problem properly, they deserve to have constant threads made about this issue sorry to say. No matter what you say you're not going to get me to give up on this. A lot of other people disagree with you as well, hence all the signatures I have here.

A dozen of these THREADS. Not a dozen spam messages. Slow down and read my message properly before just popping off please.

You're seriously preaching to the choir here by telling Square what they already know. Nothing big will change till the expansion I guarantee you that. You're all welcome to waste your time in threads like these if that makes you feel better though. I'm sure each little edit to add a name to your list makes you think it matters. That somehow it will add developers to the team with free time to fix it. We'll see I guess. I'm wouldn't hedge my bets on it though.

[Tiggy]

I didn't contradict anything. You keep adding new details to try and spin a new story that keeps going in circles. Convincing me changes nothing anyway. You continue to see the world in only black and white. I'm not telling you the spam doesn't suck. I'm telling you to simmer down. You are arguing with me like I don't think the spam sucks or something. You seem to be falling pray to the false dilemma fallacy just because I didn't give you my unconditional support.

[Zabuza]

I didn't contradict anything. You keep adding new details to try and spin a new story that keeps going in circles. Convincing me changes nothing anyway. You continue to see the world in only black and white. I'm not telling you the spam doesn't suck. I'm telling you to simmer down. You are arguing with me like I don't think the spam sucks or something. You seem to be falling pray to the false dilemma fallacy just because I didn't give you my unconditional support.

To be honest, I think I've been discussing everything in this thread relatively calmly. It's fine that I don't have your unconditional support. I knew at least one person would disagree, and you're welcome to that opinion. Your contradiction lies in the fact that you started by telling me that SE has been aware of this, so my petition was pointless. Then later on you said SE hasn't had enough time to fix this issue so I can't post this against them. One sentence implies they've known about this for awhile, while the other implies the exact opposite.

I'm curious as to what you want me to do when you say simmer down. Was your intent to get me to stop posting altogether?

[Tiggy]

To be honest, I think I've been discussing everything in this thread relatively calmly. It's fine that I don't have your unconditional support. I knew at least one person would disagree, and you're welcome to that opinion. Your contradiction lies in the fact that you started by telling me that SE has been aware of this, so my petition was pointless. Then later on you said SE hasn't had enough time to fix this issue so I can't post this against them. One sentence implies they've known about this for awhile, while the other implies the exact opposite.

I'm curious as to what you want me to do when you say simmer down. Was your intent to get me to stop posting altogether?

Whatever you need to say to help you sleep at night lol. I'm sure that post changed EVERYTHING!!~!

[Zabuza]

Whatever you need to say to help you sleep at night lol. I'm sure that post changed EVERYTHING!!~!

Well, I will leave it at this then. All I will say in closing is that I respect and understand your opinion, I simply disagree with it.