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  1. #1
    Player
    Sadana's Avatar
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    You'd think if i decline someones trade window, say "wtf is your problem"
    I, for one, would have definitely said "Oops! Sorry man." and moved on. I'll stick with my thought of mob mentality being in effect that day and that's kinda scary. o.o
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    KaedrianLiang's Avatar
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Don't let them bother you OP. It's not their job or place to confirm or investigate bot activity. That's a GM's/STF's job. This is exactly why its a reportable offense to harass a player, whether its spam opening trades, /tells, and especially public shaming in /sh.

    Report them and im sure a GM will happily give them a scolding. I feel bad for the GM's i dont think they get paid extra to babysit the whiny players that are harassing you. Shame on them.


    Players are merely allowed to submit reports if they have a suspicion, but thats it, they aren't professionals.
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    Last edited by KaedrianLiang; 03-26-2015 at 09:57 PM.

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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Report them! There are some sorry people that play. They have nothing better to do than to accuse people of botting. And how the hell do you bot fates? Didn't think that was a thing. I've seen plenty of level 50 miner bot.

    I've been accused a few times cause, I'll ignore the hell out of people while I'm mining. Accuse me all you want, I'm on PS4..... Just the other day there were some people accusing someone for botting TT at the indolent guy, cause he wouldn't respond to them, and that he never got up to go piss.
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    Fated Erskine
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    Sargatanas
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    I don't believe the story at all. However, on the off chance that it's actually true, server transferring probably won't make much of a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    The funny part about this is, that normal bot wouldn't care, if people acused him of botting and stopped partying up with him. Normal bots farm fleece etc. and don't do trials.
    But in order to make game botless and more comfortable for normal players, people are becoming idi*ts and start hunting normal players.

    Something goes off with this story? In my FC I know people who are playing for atleast 6 months and never write because they have gamepad and they just don't like the way writing with gamepad works, they are often turned to busy or afk (if you turn afk off manualy it won't turn off automaticaly) because of bots and they play a lot. So what now? Should I report them all and spam every linkshell that they are bots? According to what I have read here, I should.

    Be calm OP, you have my support and support of many other sane persons. Find a friendly FC and a few friendly statics and don't care about what people thinks. If you haven't used bot you won't get banned.
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 91
    From what I can gather from what has been said, I would say that the people obviously know that you are not a botting and are just trolling you and getting their buddies to do it too.

    The question is then, why are they doing it?

    While entirely possible that they are just randomly being jerks, I find there is usually more to it than that.

    Reading through the thread, you came off sort of aggressively reactionary, at least to me and apparently some others. It may be that it was this attitude that come across to someone in-game which pissed them off and so they started a personal crusade to harass you.

    This doesn't put them in the right and you should report harassment, but I suggest maybe reflecting on your reactions and how you interact with others as it could potentially be a catalyst for such altercations.
    Making excuses such as "I'm human, so its okay" personally don't hold water IMO. Yes people are human, yes they will slip up and make mistakes but being human also means that you have the ability to learn, think and control your actions. Just because you are human and have an emotion, doesn't mean you can't control or dictate how you act upon that emotion.
    To be fair though, if those harassing you are doing so because something you said pissed them off, they are just as guilty of this.

    Anyways, that's my opinion on all of this and some potential food for thought.
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  7. #7
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    Vergil Savickas
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    The funny part about this is, that normal bot wouldn't care, if people acused him of botting and stopped partying up with him. Normal bots farm fleece etc. and don't do trials.
    But in order to make game botless and more comfortable for normal players, people are becoming idi*ts and start hunting normal players.

    Something goes off with this story? In my FC I know people who are playing for atleast 6 months and never write because they have gamepad and they just don't like the way writing with gamepad works, they are often turned to busy or afk (if you turn afk off manualy it won't turn off automaticaly) because of bots and they play a lot. So what now? Should I report them all and spam every linkshell that they are bots? According to what I have read here, I should.


    Be calm OP, you have my support and support of many other sane persons. Find a friendly FC and a few friendly statics and don't care about what people thinks. If you haven't used bot you won't get banned.
    Thank you for the support, your message was very nice. I do have a Fc with my friends so it's fun, and idk, i guess the fact they wouldn't leave me alone cause me to see refuge here i suppose. Call it running away with my tail between my legs, I'm aware that's what this was for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    From what I can gather from what has been said, I would say that the people obviously know that you are not a botting and are just trolling you and getting their buddies to do it too.

    The question is then, why are they doing it?

    While entirely possible that they are just randomly being jerks, I find there is usually more to it than that.

    Reading through the thread, you came off sort of aggressively reactionary, at least to me and apparently some others. It may be that it was this attitude that come across to someone in-game which pissed them off and so they started a personal crusade to harass you.

    This doesn't put them in the right and you should report harassment, but I suggest maybe reflecting on your reactions and how you interact with others as it could potentially be a catalyst for such altercations.
    Making excuses such as "I'm human, so its okay" personally don't hold water IMO. Yes people are human, yes they will slip up and make mistakes but being human also means that you have the ability to learn, think and control your actions. Just because you are human and have an emotion, doesn't mean you can't control or dictate how you act upon that emotion.
    To be fair though, if those harassing you are doing so because something you said pissed them off, they are just as guilty of this.

    Anyways, that's my opinion on all of this and some potential food for thought.
    Honestly the only thing I could have thought of that would have pissed someone off was the fact that i ran through the hunt spawn by accident, it triggered, I died but nothing happened right away or for a full 3 hours later. I was typing to my FC friends and the auto run just took me in. I think it was a hunt? it was a spawn I've never seen before since I don't do the hunts and never cared for them. If it was something important and I caused it to fail, then i can understand why I'm being messed with but if thats the case, someone could have filled me in saying why did you do that, now (insert what happened after I triggered it) doesnt work or something.
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  8. #8
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    ^^^
    Hunts don't agro unless you do something to them, so that was most likely not the case.
    Perhaps it was responding to someone checking if you were a bot by initiating a trade with something along the lines of "WTF is your problem". While many would just be like " whatever", that could potentially put someone off.

    People in the game have their pitchforks and torches at the ready for anything that they could perceive as potential rmt or botting, unless they themselves are doing it *cough*wedding bands *cough*. Because of this people make stupid assumptions such as this person is mining a lot, they must be a bot! In such instances people will do things such as send tells or initiate trades to see if the player reacts, with the assumption that if they do not make a discernible human response they most likely are a bot and should be reported. Its happened to me while grinding gathering and I usually just respond with a "yes, did you need something?", in which case they tend to just go away. Responding in an aggressive manner can make someone hot under the collar and make them want to harass you.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 03-27-2015 at 01:39 AM.

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    Kehn Son'kur
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    ^^^
    Hunts don't agro unless you do something to them, so that was most likely not the case.
    only b ranks don't agro
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    Ana Reisen
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    You are welcome in my server, cactuar
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