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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    No no, I'm not saying they were extraplanetary. What I'm using the tinfoil hat for is to imagine if they, as they have the spaceship Ragnarok to prove they COULD, at least in theory, have established a colony outside of Hydaelyn (maybe in the closest planet on hydaelyn's star system) that was cut off from the mainland and remains so to this day.
    Ah, I gotcha. I actually played with this idea way back before we knew the exact details on the use of Louisoux's summoned power at the Battle of Cartenau. I had suggested that some, if not most, Allag escaped the 4th Umbral Era via spaceflight. And who knows, all we're left with is that they had the technology and that their civilization on Hydaelyn was brought down by this calamity of earth. Afaik, it's still completely open for the Devs to play with down the line. I wouldn't be opposed to someday meeting a Lunarian.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Maybe they are observing us. Maybe they think it's best to leave Hydaelyn alone, but if push comes to shove they might day feel the need to come back and help us deal with the Ascian threat. Maybe...
    Maybe... Maybe their relationship with the Ascians was different than ours...
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    Well, in pragmatic terms... Allagans had spaceships, cloning & bio-engineering technology, nanotechnology, sapient AI, and technology that met all their energy needs (post-scarcity in at least one aspect). They're pretty much as high scifi and scifi gets. They're way above what Battlestar Galactica had. Star Trek perhaps a bit closer, but they only touched on transhumanism as an occasional episodic content. Redshirts, once dead, were pretty much... dead. So you can make a case for the Allagans being beyond even that. Perhaps somewhere between Star Trek and Culture, though certainly on a much smaller scale than the latter.

    I can't think of any examples that are actually between those 2 off the top of my head, though.
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    Doga and Unei mentioned that the completion of the Syrcus Tower was not only the apex of their civilization, but also the start of a few hundred years of decline in which a bunch of the empire and its technology fell to ruin. I'm thinking there's a possibility that any Allagans that didn't end up on the CT energy grid (i.e. those in space) could have kept developing independently of their earthbound brethren, in which case there could be some Vorlon-tier offshoot out there wondering what the hell happened back on Hydaelin.

    They were also just as, if not more, guilty than the Garleans in pirating tech from precursor civilizations, so I think the idea of Ascians having a hand in reviving Xande, at the very least, is not totally beyond consideration. We only got that story from the perspective of those on the outside, after all.
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