Warriors Viable?

[Izsha]

Sword oath tanking is viable because pld maintains access to all their defensive abilities and shield. War looses not just the passive damage mitigation, but also Wrath and all its skills, notable IB. Without IB on every tank buster war gets very squishy very fast while pld retains all defensive abilities and shield. If we kept Wrath without defiance war would he all over tanking without stance. Has nothing to do with storm's path. You can keep up path 100% of the time regardless if main or OT.

[MythToken]

OP ignore everything.

War is the best Tank, simple as that. Anyone who says otherwise is a squishy. And warriors don't listen to squishys.
And if anyone has a problem with that, then you need to /yell This is SPARTA, and kick them into the pit.

#warriorsrule

[Blueskyy]

All healers that main and only play healers, no matter what will think Warriors are more difficult to heal. But in fact Warriors are not. The big numbers are just an "Illusion" because healers heal by how much the tanks hp drop and not how much the damage reduce the % of HP. I know i dont make sense now because my English is not as good. OK let me give you guys an example.

Lets say there is a Chocolate bar. One is 8cm long another is 10cm long like 8k hp and 10k hp for PLD and warrior

You cut 4.8cm off the 8cm bar you are left with 3.2cm (60%)

But for the 10cm bar you cut off 6cm leaving you 4cm (60%)

Now, obviously 6cm LOOKS like you lost more chocolate than the 4.8cm but in fact they are the same.
I don't know if anyone understands this but im just leaving it here.

To add another note to healers because i myself play healers too. I believe by playing both worlds makes you better at another. If you heal Warriors like how you Heal PLD, of course you are going to think that Warriors are more squishy. No healers should ever heal Warriors the same way they heal a PLD like No Warriors should ever play like a PLD, or No Sch should ever heal like how Whm heal. They are the same Role but they have their own individual way of playing.

[Blueskyy]

Warriors like me who from the start of playing a Warrior never stop trying to improve myself to be 1. Make Healers job easier. 2nd Do as much DPS as I can will know doing one at a time as a Warrior is easy as 123. But doing both Tanking and Maxing dps. It's a struggle no one besides those who main Warriors know. But no matter how much we improve ourselves Healers will think PLD is the better tank, making us feel unwanted, Im pretty much going to ditch Warrior if DRK is as fun and can be appreciated more by the community than Warriors

[Ashkendor]

Eh. Honestly, I prefer a WAR as an off tank for 8 man content because they put out more damage without having to worry about ripping hate off the MT, plus they have some really good debuffs (though a very geared warrior can maintain these and still maintain hate too). They're perfectly capable of MT'ing. Healers (especially new healers) tend to freak out because warriors' HP will yoyo up and down dramatically. Yes, they take more damage than a PLD but they have a larger HP pool and get healed for more to compensate for that. PLD do have Hallowed Ground going for them, but that's 10 seconds every 7 minutes. Overall, I prefer PLD for endgame content or new content (it's just what I'm more comfortable on) and WAR for dungeons/trials that I'm already familiar with.

[Instrumentality]

Warriors are great. They have Unchained so they do great dps in tank stance. That said they also have Inner Best which is basically the most boring Awesome Button I've ever encountered in an MMO for tanking since EQ. I play a Paladin because Warrior mitigation really bores me, but I'll be swapping over to DRK to see if it's anything really new/fun. Warriors work for everything as both MT and OT so do whatever you want.

[Abbul_Stonecleaver]

Warriors are great. They have Unchained so they do great dps in tank stance. That said they also have Inner Best which is basically the most boring Awesome Button I've ever encountered in an MMO for tanking since EQ. I play a Paladin because Warrior mitigation really bores me, but I'll be swapping over to DRK to see if it's anything really new/fun. Warriors work for everything as both MT and OT so do whatever you want.

This seems backwards to me. "Oh, here comes RandomTankBuster, ahh good ole Sentinel" vs "Oh, crap I have 4 stacks, do I have time to get this last one in? Thank goodness for that Vengeance stack! Boom Inner Beast! Oh hey it critted for 2.1k, sweet"

[Instrumentality]

This seems backwards to me. "Oh, here comes RandomTankBuster, ahh good ole Sentinel" vs "Oh, crap I have 4 stacks, do I have time to get this last one in? Thank goodness for that Vengeance stack! Boom Inner Beast! Oh hey it critted for 2.1k, sweet"

There are no random tank busters. Their timing is all meticulous and easily recognized. I like Paladin mitigation because I can have a workflow/plan for every buster without ever using the same CD twice in a row and still be perfectly fine. Warrior it's always the same CD + whatever else you feel like hitting.

Don't get me wrong I recognize why people like Warrior and I don't have any problem with the class. It's just not my style.

[Darkseth]

I might be in one of the Only Raid groups, that runs double warrior (they both dont like pld so... well.). We have cleared T13 like 10/11 weeks ago.
i'm in that group since like 7 months now or so, and me, as a WHM, never had the feeling, that we're missing a PLD, or that our WAR maintank is noticeable difficult to heal. Even in T13, its totally fine, and more than doable. IT depends on 1. the healer skills, and 2. the war MT skills. Of both know what they doing, its not a tiny bit worse/more difficult than aPLD Maintank. i Know it, i healed a PLD maintank in T13 today, and it was not easier (but ok, was a complete different group).

So... Even if your friends/group doesnt like pld, 2x WAR works just fine, as long everyone knows their job.
If anyone's interested, first 2 Ahk Morns goes into Holmgang, every single after that is tanked together, and we just heal through it. not really much of a problem. So, its really really more than doable, and warrior does not fall behind Paladin at all. If you have any concerns.
(Maybe we're even the first group, that beat T13 with double warrior. Since double war seems to be pretty rare-)

[Abbul_Stonecleaver]

I meant random as in there are many of them and I needed a universal name. Guess a tank buster would work.

Just saying Warrior is more proactive while a Paladin can be more reactive. Kinda the opposite of boring