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    Player
    Darkshade's Avatar
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    Shade Hikari
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    Leviathan
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    Skadi Felis
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    SE have already a solution for Heavensward against RMT.
    Put most things (including access to the new zones) behind 2.55 story progression.
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    Dererk Titan
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    This idea could be better restrict tells unless these conditions are met.

    1 frendslist
    2 you have a party finder up.
    3 ls or fc.
    4 in a party with you or open world alliance.

    In other words unless they on some list of a group your in no tells.
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    Claire Reddfield
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    Uh.... Don't charge ridiculous prices and the rmt sellers won't have a market?
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    Glen Livet
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    How about we go after the problem and not the symptoms that arise from the problem? SE needs to disable the ability to trade gil between characters. How would the RMT companies sell you gil then?
    As for botting, SE needs to download the various bot programs, analyze the way they work and build detection algorithms into the game client. This IS possible. I'd be fine with an additional program running on my computer that scanned for the various bot programs continually and or randomly. Small price to pay to keep the bots out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aresgodofwar30 View Post
    How about we go after the problem and not the symptoms that arise from the problem? SE needs to disable the ability to trade gil between characters. How would the RMT companies sell you gil then?
    As for botting, SE needs to download the various bot programs, analyze the way they work and build detection algorithms into the game client. This IS possible. I'd be fine with an additional program running on my computer that scanned for the various bot programs continually and or randomly. Small price to pay to keep the bots out.
    This would only limit legit players and the RMT would easily find a work around for this unfortunately. If they couldn't trade gil, they'd probably just arrange to buy something worthless off of one of your retainers for millions.

    As for the second suggestion, SE should already be aware of the bot programs as they should being in the MMO gaming industry, but who knows? Maybe they really are so clueless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aresgodofwar30 View Post
    Small price to pay to keep the bots out.
    I don't know how much experience you have with such programs, but from my experience (playing 30+ different games with such software) I can safely say that this software is a major inhibitor to gameplay, and can decimate a playerbase. Due to the unlimited quantity of differing infrastructures in each platform (different specs on PC, different internet capabilities on consoles, etc.) ALL of these programs are highly buggy, and tend to have more false positives than they do actual caught programs. they also tend to be MUCH easier to hack than the games themelves, and usually come with built in keyloggers and such, which make identity theft MUCH more likely with players playing such games.

    If SE adopted a dedicated client snooping program, and required it to be running in the background, I would be cancelling my subscription and backcharging whatever remained of it. I can also name 40 other players who would do the same, at minimum. I don't want spyware on my computer, thank you.
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    Last edited by tocsin; 04-15-2015 at 03:00 PM.

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    I have an idea.

    And it's real simple, but it requires everyone's participation: don't buy from RMT'ers. EVER! I mean, it's simple economics of supply and demand: if there's no demand, and no sales, then... だよね

    I only play on JP servers and almost never see any RMT spam or anything. And, the simple reason is (and I can safely say this for all my fellow gamers on JP servers) -- we play by the rules and don't succumb to instant gratification. as such, there is no market for RMTers to sell to -- so they don't.

    Implication: If your server is severely affected by RMT spam and junk, there's a likely economic reason for that...
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    Last edited by Kyonika; 04-16-2015 at 11:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyonika View Post
    I have an idea.

    And it's real simple, but it requires everyone's participation: don't buy from RMT'ers. EVER! I mean, it's simple economics of supply and demand: if there's no demand, and no sales, then... だよね

    I only play on JP servers and almost never see any RMT spam or anything. And, the simple reason is (and I can safely say this for all my fellow gamers on JP servers) -- we play by the rules and don't succumb to instant gratification. as such, there is no market for RMTers to sell to -- so they don't.
    Then that's not really a realistic solution is it? The people who buy gil don't really care the effects it brings. The people who want this RMT plague to stop are unlikely to be buyers (as they would essentially be advocating getting themselves banned).

    We're not some sort of singular consciousness that can control the actions of every player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    We're not some sort of singular consciousness that can control the actions of every player.
    That line right there. Brilliant. See the answer embedded therein. Though it may take some time...

    In the mean time, if there was just a way to make it too expensive for RMTers to continue selling, and too expensive for buyers to participate in ...
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