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    New game play

    I was not only talking about the dungeons but the MAIN QUEST, how as a new player am I supposed to learn the necessary attacks to kill monsters, gain experience, get items from drop, and watch cut scenes if a bunch of level 50 players takes it away and does all the work. You may been on the game for a year but have a care for those who actually want to play the game and are so new to the game don't have enough friends at the same level to form a party. I just want to enjoy the experience of playing and learning about the game for myself, not have a level 50 player "take over" the quest just because they know what to do, and run off and leave you behind anyway with no clear idea of what is going on. How is that helping me?
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    (walks right out gets a comfy chair takes out popcorn and waits)

    Ok so I'm really having a hard time understanding what your talking about uh so your mad about that level 50 people can go bk and do pre level 50 stuff in higher gear???

    So wer all just supposed to lower our level of experience in the game to yours?

    Wer supposed to be the same level as you?

    (bangs head on wall to try and decode original post)
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    Last edited by Dererk; 03-26-2015 at 07:15 AM.

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    New plaer

    I am not being selfish, as it's my FIRST time playing, there may be something in the cut scenes that may be important. If the others run off and leave me, I'm left standing twiddling my thumbs for half an hour, doing nothing, not gaining experience or knowledge of how to defeat monsters because they do all the work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin01 View Post
    I was not only talking about the dungeons but the MAIN QUEST, how as a new player am I supposed to learn the necessary attacks to kill monsters, gain experience, get items from drop, and watch cut scenes if a bunch of level 50 players takes it away and does all the work.
    Except for the dungeons, you do the rest of the main scenario solo, so there is nobody to take over, and you can take all the time you want.

    In the dungeons, where you have a party of other players, they'll usually slow down and give you a chance to see everything if you let them know that you're new. They may give you some pointers as well, letting you know what's coming up in the next boss fight, and so on. If, even knowing that it's your first time there, the level 50 players you were grouped with still take over and leave you behind, then you unfortunately got stuck with a rude bunch of jerks. That happens sometimes when you're playing with other people, especially if you get matched up randomly with those other people. Forming a group yourself by finding like-minded players to join you can improve your odds significantly.
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    You can't do the last two story missions in solo, you need help. How in the dungeons etc are you supposed to let them know your a newbie, surely they would guess that from the amount of health you have and then play to compensate for that especially when your on the PS4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin01 View Post
    .... especially when your on the PS4
    I'm not trying to sound snide or rude (the glory of only having text), you really should invest in a keyboard if you're on PS4. Trust me, it'll save you a lot of headache, especially when in dungeons. Most players greatly appreciate it when a new person lets the party know they're new. Most of us vets have no issues taking a new person through, explaining mechanics, as long as we know to do so. If getting one is out of the question right now, others have suggested making a macro to say in party chat that you're new.

    That said, I hope people haven't put you off from the game. It can be an enjoyable experience, especially if you find an awesome free company and make some friends. If people continue giving you a hard time for being new, screw them. They aren't worth your frustration.
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    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Ok making sense now so ya that's a real problem with the last 2 story dungeons there are too many cs and other people want to get other stuff done.

    So ya make a party finder for that stuff you need to.

    You also need to realize that there are other people here and they have other priority's on their minds than waiting for people to finish watching a cs.

    I was mad when I was told to skip the first time but I realize its not fair to the others who are there for other reasons that was not me getting my clear.

    And there are plenty of helpful people in the game just don't expect them to stop what their doing to help with everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin01 View Post
    How in the dungeons etc are you supposed to let them know your a newbie, surely they would guess that from the amount of health you have and then play to compensate for that especially when your on the PS4
    Actually, the amount of health someone hasn't doesn't necessarily mean they're a newbie. They could just be leveling up a new class-- for example, I've finished the entire story and am in endgame content now. I just started leveling Archer a little while ago, so if I go into a dungeon as Archer, it will show me as being level 22 because that's my level for that particular class. I'm far from a new player, though.
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    Coriander Silverflame
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    New players should not be bullied into skipping cutscenes, or locked out of battles!!

    I concur with the earlier posters who point out that all too frequently veteran players seem to forget that they were once new to the content, or to understand that some players (often Final Fantasy fans, unsurprisingly enough) really appreciate experiencing the game narrative in context rather than watching it on YouTube or in the Inn.

    Fortunately after one awful group I managed to get a party of helpful players (notably tanks and healers) for the Praetorium who said that they watched the cutscenes when they were new without being locked out of battles and encouraged me to do likewise.

    Unfortunately if people are overgeared they can basically rush through everything and even ignore most mechanics. Instituting iLvl sync would help, at the possible expense of reducing the number of players in Duty Finder.

    As suggested, Party Finder and making friends in the game is the best solution. Recently I was in a learning party of people on my server for Turn 1, and it was great!
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    As a final comment, I hope in the future that veteran players consider that helping new players enjoy the game story (particularly in story-heavy missions like CM and the Praetorium) is a good thing to do, and not just a waste of "your" time.

    A friendly and helpful community is one of the best things that you can have in an MMO like FFXIV, and it's what will help it prosper and grow into the future.
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