Playing an MMO with a controller

[Nephera]

I use it to fish while laying in bed because i'm a lazy sack of crap.

[Ooshima]

Controller seems too tedious for this game at least. With a MMO mouse like Logitech G600 I have access to crossbar 1 and 2, which holds up to 24 weaponskills/spells/macros to my mouse itself. Movement just WASD QE. Targetting is so much easier, especially with floor AoEs like Flaming Arrow/Shadow Flare and things like Sacred Soil.

[Hazama999]

I love it when people reply to these kinds of threads citing efficiency.

It's true, KB+M IS more efficient in terms of how quickly you have access to stuff.

The thing is, though, there is no instance or fight that requires split second, frame perfect reflexes. Anything that you have to outright react to gives you ample time to do so, with the rest being up to individual player skill. That said, this is not a fighting game. You're not doing an FADC-into-ultra or kara cancelling. This game just doesn't demand such dexterity.

Of course, I know that me saying that is kinda pointless. This IS an MMO, after all, a genre known for its OCD levels of perfectionism. People will go "I do this cause it optimizes #s by XXX% TO THE MAX!" in a game that just isn't that demanding.

[Ooshima]

I love it when people reply to these kinds of threads citing efficiency.

It's true, KB+M IS more efficient in terms of how quickly you have access to stuff.

The thing is, though, there is no instance or fight that requires split second, frame perfect reflexes. Anything that you have to outright react to gives you ample time to do so, with the rest being up to individual player skill. That said, this is not a fighting game. You're not doing an FADC-into-ultra or kara cancelling. This game just doesn't demand such dexterity.

Of course, I know that me saying that is kinda pointless. This IS an MMO, after all, a genre known for its OCD levels of perfectionism. People will go "I do this cause it optimizes #s by XXX% TO THE MAX!" in a game that just isn't that demanding.

I see you have not stepped into any of the coil turns yet.

Whilst there are console players clearing coil, but when referring to the top teams and early savage coil clearer, I've seen a console/controller user within. There's a reason for that.

[AkashiXI]

I see you have not stepped into any of the coil turns yet.

Whilst there are console players clearing coil, but when referring to the top teams and early savage coil clearer, I've seen a console/controller user within. There's a reason for that.

Controllers are not exclusive to consoles, so there's no reason to validate either or in the same statement. Secondly, this game was optimized in mind of a controller, as there is no bottleneck for raiding with one. I know plenty of great players who play with them, and I'll even say you're having selective memory when it comes to your claim. Can you prove there wasn't a single controller user in those groups?

Finally, this is coming from experience. Spare lodestone, I've cleared t13 and I've tanked dps and healed all coils (except healed 13). It's not difficult for me to optimize my dps, or tank, or target as a healer. I don't have to worry about targeting mobs, about strafing as my Bard, or having enough abilities on my hotbar. I don't need to shortcut, I don't have macros attached to my gcds, none of that. It's all preference, simple as that.

[Nestama]

Controller seems too tedious for this game at least. With a MMO mouse like Logitech G600 I have access to crossbar 1 and 2, which holds up to 24 weaponskills/spells/macros to my mouse itself. Movement just WASD QE. Targetting is so much easier, especially with floor AoEs like Flaming Arrow/Shadow Flare and things like Sacred Soil.

It honestly isn't, at least to me it isn't. If I were to switch to keyboard and mouse, there is a 100% chance I would go from being a very decent Black Mage to instantly being replaced in my static. I tried my hand with KB+M with FFXI, GW2 and WoW and... how even? Too tedious for me.

All in all, it's just a matter of preference. Neither is better than the other as the game was designed to be played with both controls in mind.

T12 clear (BLM): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kccY1to_t20
Leviathan EX clear (SCH - 10 months ago): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grGQ_h-BzS8

I'm also an Australian on an American server. Do I get extra points for dealing with latency?