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  1. #61
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Well this game does have a lot of focus on casuals so not everyone plays their job to their "full ponential" and would guess it pretty large number.
    The issue with needing 3 bars to play to the fullest is more related to the pet bar than anything else since it adds a ridiculous number of options that you can use to optimize pet performance. For non pet classes 2 cross bars are sufficient.

    That said, one of the Heavensward interviews with Yoshi talked about this issue a little and it seemed like they might be trying to do something else to make more commands available easily, not sure how that will work, but perhaps it will help for the pet classes.
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  2. #62
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    DarkChild's Avatar
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    Red Aurora
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 52
    I only use Keyboard and Mouse for Sim City 4 and Civilization 5. Everything else gets the controller. The PS4 Dualshock controller is the best I have ever layed my hands on. I've even tried the various Xbox controllers in the past.

    I can't imagine trying to play FF14 with keyboard and mouse. I'm so glad it allows for controller use otherwise I wouldn't have tried it! There is a reason why this game is my first MMO and the controller is that reason.
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  3. #63
    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 53
    Tedious is a million different buttons and different binds. The controller keeps it simple and puts more buttons within the natural range of motion of my fingers. I'm quite happy to play with a controller.
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  4. #64
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    Altera's Avatar
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    Chandani Aranka
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    Odin
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I cannot play XIV with a KB Mouse setup, Ive tried but do not like it as much as my gamepad. And I play on PC
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  5. #65
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    Izsha's Avatar
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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I think FFXIV has a very good controller scheme but it will never be as good as mouse & keyboard.

    this game needs at least 3 action bars to play your job to its full potential.

    targeting with a controller is no match to mouse & keyboard as well.
    That's really only true for pet jobs because of the large number of extra actions maneuvering pets and activating 2 to 3 pets unique abilities.

    If your not a pet job (to many buttons) or a healer (player selecting for actions), then controller easily matches or bests keyboard/mouse combinations. You can play every job save the above with 2 hotbars, 32 buttons easily and that includes redundant actions on each bar. (I duplicate basic spam actions like heavy shot or primary combo on both bars so I can continue rotation while toggling hotbars to access more abilities).

    It's all preference in the end mostly. I was a console gamer growing up, 1st real mmo was xi on ps2 with controller. Migrated to PC, now play 14 controllered. My coil statics from t1 to t13 have had a mix of kb/mouse, kb only, and controller users. There was never some discrepancy between us. They all work if you have half a brain to create a logical setup for your actions.

    But controllers forever win the comfort award. Sit back. Relax. You don't have to be upright ergonomically correct at a desk. Most of us do that at work. Relax at home with a controller in whatever position you want.
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  6. #66
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    Dawning-Blue's Avatar
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    Kosmos Cosmos
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    Bahamut
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I play with a ps3 controller on my labtop. My friend help set it up. I can't play this with a keyboard i was pulling my hair out
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  7. #67
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    Ultear_Milkovich's Avatar
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    Pandora Heinstein
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    PC elitist bla bla

    "this game needs at least 3 action bars to play your job to its full potential."
    As BLM i use 26 actions during PVE:

    - Fire III
    - Fire I
    - Ice III
    - Thunder I
    - Scathe
    - Fire II
    - Thunder III
    - Ice I
    - Sprint
    - Transpose
    - Convert
    - Manawall
    - Manaward
    - Swiftcast
    - Flare
    - Raging Strikes
    - Limit Break
    - Virus
    - Lethargy
    - Sleep
    - Quelling Strikes
    - Surecast
    - Aetherial manipulation
    - Freeze
    - Ice 2
    - And my intel pots

    I also have my 6 PVP actions on my two bars because i PVP a lot.

    That makes exactly 32 actions to play my job to the best extent possible - PVP and relevant Xskills included - and this is not even close to your 3x16=48 . I dont see where to pick up 16 extra relevant actions but you prolly have an idea... 16 different kind of pots/foods that you need to pop within a 2.5 GCD ?

    Only case your statement works with is pet jobs. be serious even if being a PC integrist looks pro.
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  8. #68
    Player Satia's Avatar
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    Sa'tia Demeaux
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 50
    Really? Don't we have enough of these "kb/mouse vs. controller" threads?

    It's personal preference.. get over it. sheesh!
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  9. #69
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    Jessie Belle
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 60
    I thought it was stupid at first until I saw that 4man Ifrit EX video.
    When I began to think about it, I realized that the cross hotbar is actually a pretty clever system.
    I still prefer Mouse/Keyboard myself, but I respect the controller users now.

    All the cool people using a controller have a Keyboard laying nearby for typing anyway...
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  10. #70
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    Chukkaque Thestrong
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    Exodus
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    Botanist Lv 60
    I cannot stand playing Keyboard Mouse. Its so much easier for my to play with a controller. I bounce back and forth between PS4 and 360.
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