Leve allowance idea...

[Chihaya]

increase in leveling speed

The bottom line of your goal. Don't sugar coat it.

Perhaps 1 Venture for 1 additional Leve allowance, 1000 GC seals for 5 additional Leve allowance or something like that.

Nor is this a just 'slight increase' you speak of

I would also ask you not to metaphorically put words in my mouth by claiming to speak for my motives despite myself saying no such thing.

OK... but then

does this mean you want SE to reduce all DoW/DoM EXP options just because (some) people cap them already in less than two days too

the exact same shit the other way around

I would like to ask you how long it took you to cap all yours

I feel this was the only question and the rest is just some self-righteous rant no different from the bible preachers coming on campus telling everyone that they are going to hell.

I can't really tell you the exact time as most of my achievements dates are overwritten by my last server transfer in March 2014. So you can either take my word for it or whatever but my characters are fresh ARR characters.
I started 2nd week of September 2013 after trying and failing to get on my first choice server Mandragora due to server locking which I transferred to it during the first week of December 2013.
During this time, which was less than 3 months - I capped all DoH/DoL/DoW/DoM - this is before dungeon exp increase, before beastmen tribes, possibly before roulettes too(?), and before leve exp adjustments (you get less exp from DoH and DoL leves before but for DoH leves, you get a 200% bonus instead of the 100% now)

My alt I started after my 2nd transfer to Balmung - I did not spend that much time on it, leveled DoH/DoL almost purely off GC daily turn ins. So yes it took several months but also close to no effort as it was extremely easy to obtain all HQ from my main char.

TL;DR
It works fine the way it is now.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Snugglebutt]

The bottom line of your goal. Don't sugar coat it.

Nor is this a just 'slight increase' you speak of

I told you what my goal was, it is not what you 'claim' and I explained that to you. Your just making assumptions, bad ones that are contrary to what you have been told by me previously and an assumption which ignores the facts I gave you. My suggestions in the first post were just that...suggestions intended to kick off debate and bring about other people making more suggestions to make the system even better. You can pretend I am sugar coating it if that makes you feel better but I told you my goal already and it is not what you claimed, what you claimed is just in your head and not what was said by me.

It has less to do with speeding up the leveling (though I admit it could be used to 'slightly' increase the speed though that speed increase is redundant for the multiple reasons I already told you), it has more to do with improving the consistency of leves helped by the player offsetting the real world time limit restrictions by requiring additional effort from the player to gain those additional allowances of which to use between the long periods of time waiting for the reset. I also explained how your excuse regarding the increase in speed was highly flawed but you have apparently ignored that.

the exact same shit the other way around

I asked you a question, you tried to state a false fact. One that goes against what you were told by me. In the context of what I said prior to what you quoted (context and question you actually ignored), the question was legitimate and was not a statement of fact about how you think or your motives but more a question asking you something based on the context on my previous reply in what you would think about it when taking in the context of what I said.

I feel this was the only question and the rest is just some self-righteous rant no different from the bible preachers coming on campus telling everyone that they are going to hell.

I called you out on a very bad excuse you used, I explained in great detail why your excuse was bad of which you completely ignored and it appears that has led to you turning it into a melodrama instead of answering my question.

TL;DR
It works fine the way it is now.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Things do not need to be broken to be improved upon. You could ride in a horse and carriage to get from A to B in the old days but does not mean the motorized vehicle should not have been invented and used. Improvements should not be ignored just because the old thing is not laying on the floor broken into pieces. Threads that are created to bring about discussion on how to make something better should exist just as much as the ones whining about something already broken...nothing in this world is perfect and there is always things can do to improve upon what once was.

On a side note I am not going to keep playing along with your shotgun argumentation methodology, if you want to reply then you are more than capable of doing so using a single quote or even with no quote and just replying normally without the dissection into tiny pieces which take out the context of those quotes. All you have done so far is state you are against the idea, attempted to imply a motive not stated by me, make a bad excuse regarding the speed of leveling that would occur which I pointed out is redundant and not as dramatic as you claimed then you whined about my calling you out on that excuse after I gave you a lot of detail as to why it was flawed. There was nothing that harsh and certainly not vindictive in my previous reply, it was a long post but not a vicious or overly mean one.

[Chihaya]

You have stated yourself that your motive: you want better pacing - think about it. What does it mean?
Yea, MORE exp.

Especially with the ridiculous rate you gave 1 venture/leve - you know how much GC seals you get for a i100 dungeon drop? for a GC crafting/gathering daily turn in? a i55 green item that you can craft/buy and spam?
This literally enables you to power level everything within a short time because the vast amount of exp these leves give - hence is why you are limited in them.

Look at some of the crafting leves, turning in an HQ item pretty much gives you a whole level at low level, and higher level ones (e.i lv45 that reward 100k exp) it only takes HQ 3 to gain a level. 3 crafts to gain a level - leveling a craft while barely doing the craft (or you can just buy it off MB then you wouldn't have to craft at all). But no, that's not enough, you want to be able to do this indefinitely and not be limited by the guild leve allowance.

Yea, there are many ways to get from point A to point B, but you don't need a private jet to do so.
The current method is already a quick and easy route, I guess I can include this into the "Please stop asking SE to make FFXIV more easy!" thread.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

i think other options to gain allowances would be nice. i don't think it would be so bad to award an allowance for the completion of a Guildhest, or rather yet... attach a single allowance as an award for Guildhest Roulette. don't make it a daily bonus, but one a person can repeat as many times as they like. one duty, one allowance. and guildhest wait times are pretty low, even for damage... at least on Exodus they are. :/

[Zfz]

I don't mind the option to do this trade, although personally I don't feel the need for it because I dont' cram everything into a few days, so by the time I need my leve allowances they've already grew back.

[kyuven]

I have all but 1 class at 50 and have always had a surplus of leves except the time i was getting Fisher to 50, and even then i just waited and a lot of that was being forced to drop leves that were too expensive/time consuming to complete.
Sooo...yeah...I really don't PERSONALLY see the point in this, unless they add something spectacular to use leve allowances on.

[Waeksyn]

I used the multiple turn in leves for leveling when I took my crafts to 50 (gathering to 50 at the same time). Those who say that this is quick are not representing the whole picture. In order to do the multiple turn in, you need HQ. When you're leveling up, getting HQ is not easy and needs HQ mats. This took a lot of time to gather and then to craft for the turn in. Of course, if you're just spending RMT gil, there's no need to do the gathering.

Leves are once again an important thing as I now obtain the untradeable items needed to craft the Lucis turn in items (obtained through leves or bought with GC currency). To get one crafting job ready for Lucis turn in takes ~ 30-40 leves worth of activity depending on the RNG (leves don't always offer the item as reward).

[StouterTaru]

To get one crafting job ready for Lucis turn in takes ~ 30-40 leves worth of activity depending on the RNG (leves don't always offer the item as reward).

You should not be using 30-40 leves to get the items for Lucis for one class. To get the items for 10 Lucis tools on my main, I used about 210 leves, and most of the wasted ones were used figuring out the system.

• Every time you complete a leve, the rewards and leves offered shift (all DoH are always offered, but they shift). Completing means turn in for DoH/fisher, for DoW/DoM/miner/botanist it's when they ask if you want to warp to the levemate, not when you get the reward.
• Because of the above, accept all that have the rewards, turn only one in, then go back to the levemate and accept all that have the reward you want.
• If none are offered for the class you are going for, get one from a class you will be going after in the future that has the Lucis reward.
• DoH 45 leves in Mor Dhona and starter cities both offer Lucis items as rewards.

[AlexionSkylark]

The allowance system is used to keep people from farming levequests ad infinitum. What you propose actually kills the entire system

[Felis]

unlimit the leve allowances, reduce the exp reward by 80%