Selene SkillSpeed Buff

[Kabzy]

Actually if the OP doesn't mind I'd like to add coils to this topic too.

I'm currently on T11 and my raid don't want me to use Selene because of the Skill Speed buff draining TP. Something along the lines of Bard having to use Paeon will actually reduce overall DPS because he can't DPS fully himself. Has anyone tested if this really is the case? I don't mind using Eos while we're still learning the fight, but surely Selene would be the better pick when we have it on farm?

[DarkmoonVael]

In a dungeon, i doubt you are ever going to have a situation where there is so much up-time on mobs/boss for TP users to run out of TP due to Selene.

If you dont need Eos' extra healing in a dungeon, use Selene. If people run out of TP, i think its more due to them rather than Selene.

[Spoekes]

I'm currently on T11 and my raid don't want me to use Selene because of the Skill Speed buff draining TP. Something along the lines of Bard having to use Paeon will actually reduce overall DPS because he can't DPS fully himself. Has anyone tested if this really is the case? I don't mind using Eos while we're still learning the fight, but surely Selene would be the better pick when we have it on farm?

I would really like to know the exact reasoning behind this too.

For Selenes Buffs to be detrimental, the slightly shorter interval of Foes for playing peon a little sooner and the impact to DPS this does to the Bard (roughly 10 DPS over a period of 4 minutes - if I recall correctly) must outweigh the gain that Selenes buffs offer.

I'm shuffeling some numbers in my head but I can't see how the Bards Damage loss is ever bigger than the DPS gain for the speed buffs.

Still

[Cynfael]

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I don't play melee in FCOB, so I'm not in a good position to critique my NIN and MNK, but they already request Paeon near the end of P1 in T11 because otherwise they're scraping the barrel halfway through the add phase. That's without my using Selene.

On the other hand, our BRD could simply play Paeon more frequently, but that would probably eliminate Foes'.

Since we have no issues with Enrage, I default to using Eos to help cover mistakes (yes, one or two people still have issues after months of doing the content...the nerd rage is rising.)

[Spoekes]

I don't play melee in FCOB, so I'm not in a good position to critique my NIN and MNK, but they already request Paeon near the end of P1 in T11 because otherwise they're scraping the barrel halfway through the add phase. That's without my using Selene.

That's what I meant in my OP, I do understand that you sometimes want to time the singing so its not peon during add phase and/or you want to make sure that foes can be played at a precise moment.