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    As some others have said, the increase isn't linear by percentage but by raw numbers. If it was linear by percentage that'd be exponential growth. About 20 DPS is common for every 3 weapon damage. So the 5 weapon damage and 40 DPS increase is normal. Back in the day going from relic to zenith was something crazy like 20%. This is also because as the weapons grow so do all of our other gear.

    Also, x5 weapons usually had 2 wd over x0 weapons, the last tier had only 1 wd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFaelivrin View Post
    if you think a 10% dps increase from a single piece of gear isn't huge you're insane.
    is not "a piece of gear" is the weapon, where the damage comes from

    Quote Originally Posted by Oce View Post
    If secondary stats are "irrelevant" then I would like to see documentation that shows a relic with, say, max vit/skill speed melds as opposed to ss/crit ss/det crit/det stacking up.
    secondary stats doing little to no difference is common knowledge, you can do the testing yourself or google it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
    As some others have said, the increase isn't linear by percentage but by raw numbers. If it was linear by percentage that'd be exponential growth. About 20 DPS is common for every 3 weapon damage. So the 5 weapon damage and 40 DPS increase is normal. Back in the day going from relic to zenith was something crazy like 20%. This is also because as the weapons grow so do all of our other gear.

    Also, x5 weapons usually had 2 wd over x0 weapons, the last tier had only 1 wd.

    i was actually looking at weapons right now and they seem to go up 3 wd every 5 ilvls i guess is a different system than i expected.. case closed :P.

    pd: thanks for the intelligent response. those are lacking in this forum
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    Last edited by kehn; 03-26-2015 at 06:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    secondary stats doing little to no difference is common knowledge, you can do the testing yourself or google it.
    You don't know what you're talking about. How did Lucrezia beat T13 within the first week of it coming out? Crafted gear, for the SECONDARY STATS. Yes, it makes a difference. You just don't see it because you haven't looked. If it's so useless, prove it to us. You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

    And a weapon is still a piece of gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    You don't know what you're talking about. How did Lucrezia beat T13 within the first week of it coming out? Crafted gear, for the SECONDARY STATS. Yes, it makes a difference. You just don't see it because you haven't looked. If it's so useless, prove it to us. You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

    And a weapon is still a piece of gear.
    oh so you don't know you can put base stats on accessories and that is what people actually do with them (EI STR/VIT)? oh ok....
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    Last edited by kehn; 03-26-2015 at 06:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    oh so you don't know you can put base stats on accessories and that is what people actually do with them (EI STR/VIT)? oh ok....
    But do you pentameld with all base stats? No. Do you meld base stats onto left side gear? No. VIT or STR accounts for maybe two of the five melds on any given piece of gear. The rest you fill with, guess what, secondary stats. Stats that actually make a difference between a clear and a wipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    But do you pentameld with all base stats? No. Do you meld base stats onto left side gear? No. VIT or STR accounts for maybe two of the five melds on any given piece of gear. The rest you fill with, guess what, secondary stats. Stats that actually make a difference between a clear and a wipe.
    game "smart" im done with that argument. if you don't understand stat weights that is your poblem. go talk to a wall about it
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