135 weapon damage scaling

[gamesmart]

secondary stats doing little to no difference is common knowledge, you can do the testing yourself or google it.

You don't know what you're talking about. How did Lucrezia beat T13 within the first week of it coming out? Crafted gear, for the SECONDARY STATS. Yes, it makes a difference. You just don't see it because you haven't looked. If it's so useless, prove it to us. You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

And a weapon is still a piece of gear.

[kehn]

You don't know what you're talking about. How did Lucrezia beat T13 within the first week of it coming out? Crafted gear, for the SECONDARY STATS. Yes, it makes a difference. You just don't see it because you haven't looked. If it's so useless, prove it to us. You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

And a weapon is still a piece of gear.

oh so you don't know you can put base stats on accessories and that is what people actually do with them (EI STR/VIT)? oh ok....

[gamesmart]

oh so you don't know you can put base stats on accessories and that is what people actually do with them (EI STR/VIT)? oh ok....

But do you pentameld with all base stats? No. Do you meld base stats onto left side gear? No. VIT or STR accounts for maybe two of the five melds on any given piece of gear. The rest you fill with, guess what, secondary stats. Stats that actually make a difference between a clear and a wipe.

[NFaelivrin]

if you think a 10% dps increase from a single piece of gear isn't huge you're insane.

[melflomil]

i had a novus spear 110 and I got a dreadwyrm spear my DPs increase by 100 lol. Use to hit around 460 and no I can do around 570 with the upgrade from the spear alone :O

[Warlyx]

10% dmg increased is a lot just for changing 1 piece of gear (weapon ) , if u dont think 10% boost is enough ... what do u want , being able to one shot bosses? or what?

secondary stats do a lot , gez skill speed kills my tp and does nearly nothing for my dps , crit however

[kehn]

10% dmg increased is a lot just for changing 1 piece of gear (weapon ) , if u dont think 10% boost is enough ... what do u want , being able to one shot bosses? or what?

secondary stats do a lot , gez skill speed kills my tp and does nearly nothing for my dps , crit however

i was going to do some math with you but when you said "what do u want , being able to one shot bosses?" i lost the desire

[Oce]

Secondary stats aren't so much "useless" as they are "interchangeable". SS/Crit stacks up to SS/Det with negligible differences, the "priority" stats per class seem to provide minimal difference, but that doesn't mean secondary stats, in general, are useless. If your weapon and equipment had 0 secondary stats, or secondary stats that provided no benefit whatsoever (skill speed for example), the difference WOULD be noticeable. I think your choice of wording is where the issue is stemming from.

[kehn]

i said they were "almost irrelevant"(to the conversation), not useless ... that was game "smart" putting words in my mouth. they are irrelevant because all weapons have secondary stats and they make a negligible difference at most (less than 1%).

[Oce]

Ah, my mistake then, I'll admit I didn't reread the thread recently so I was going off where the conversation was currently.

I'd argue that they compound, so they're not irrelevant as a GEARSET but hardly noticeable on a single piece of gear, if that makes sense. By looking at just one piece of gear, the difference is minor, but if you put them all together you get a significant increase if the secondary stats are ideal for your role. So that said, I'd say they're still pretty important on your weapon if only for that compounding effect adding up to more than 1%. I know I certainly feel it and notice it if I swap out SS gear for, say, crit gear (whm, I'm not a fan of crit builds but I SEE the difference).