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  1. #31
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    As some others have said, the increase isn't linear by percentage but by raw numbers. If it was linear by percentage that'd be exponential growth. About 20 DPS is common for every 3 weapon damage. So the 5 weapon damage and 40 DPS increase is normal. Back in the day going from relic to zenith was something crazy like 20%. This is also because as the weapons grow so do all of our other gear.

    Also, x5 weapons usually had 2 wd over x0 weapons, the last tier had only 1 wd.
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  2. #32
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    if you think a 10% dps increase from a single piece of gear isn't huge you're insane.
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  3. #33
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oce View Post
    If secondary stats are "irrelevant" then I would like to see documentation that shows a relic with, say, max vit/skill speed melds as opposed to ss/crit ss/det crit/det stacking up.
    I would like to know this tech of melding VIT to your relic.

    :P
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    I would like to know this tech of melding VIT to your relic.

    :P
    SHHHH my brain derped. POINT STANDS a relic with useless stats to blm dps vs. a relic with good stats for blm dps.
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    i had a novus spear 110 and I got a dreadwyrm spear my DPs increase by 100 lol. Use to hit around 460 and no I can do around 570 with the upgrade from the spear alone :O
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    Kehn Son'kur
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFaelivrin View Post
    if you think a 10% dps increase from a single piece of gear isn't huge you're insane.
    is not "a piece of gear" is the weapon, where the damage comes from

    Quote Originally Posted by Oce View Post
    If secondary stats are "irrelevant" then I would like to see documentation that shows a relic with, say, max vit/skill speed melds as opposed to ss/crit ss/det crit/det stacking up.
    secondary stats doing little to no difference is common knowledge, you can do the testing yourself or google it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
    As some others have said, the increase isn't linear by percentage but by raw numbers. If it was linear by percentage that'd be exponential growth. About 20 DPS is common for every 3 weapon damage. So the 5 weapon damage and 40 DPS increase is normal. Back in the day going from relic to zenith was something crazy like 20%. This is also because as the weapons grow so do all of our other gear.

    Also, x5 weapons usually had 2 wd over x0 weapons, the last tier had only 1 wd.

    i was actually looking at weapons right now and they seem to go up 3 wd every 5 ilvls i guess is a different system than i expected.. case closed :P.

    pd: thanks for the intelligent response. those are lacking in this forum
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    Last edited by kehn; 03-26-2015 at 06:14 AM.

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    secondary stats doing little to no difference is common knowledge, you can do the testing yourself or google it.
    You don't know what you're talking about. How did Lucrezia beat T13 within the first week of it coming out? Crafted gear, for the SECONDARY STATS. Yes, it makes a difference. You just don't see it because you haven't looked. If it's so useless, prove it to us. You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

    And a weapon is still a piece of gear.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    You don't know what you're talking about. How did Lucrezia beat T13 within the first week of it coming out? Crafted gear, for the SECONDARY STATS. Yes, it makes a difference. You just don't see it because you haven't looked. If it's so useless, prove it to us. You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

    And a weapon is still a piece of gear.
    oh so you don't know you can put base stats on accessories and that is what people actually do with them (EI STR/VIT)? oh ok....
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    Last edited by kehn; 03-26-2015 at 06:25 AM.

  9. #39
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    Warlyx Arada
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    10% dmg increased is a lot just for changing 1 piece of gear (weapon ) , if u dont think 10% boost is enough ... what do u want , being able to one shot bosses? or what?

    secondary stats do a lot , gez skill speed kills my tp and does nearly nothing for my dps , crit however
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    10% dmg increased is a lot just for changing 1 piece of gear (weapon ) , if u dont think 10% boost is enough ... what do u want , being able to one shot bosses? or what?

    secondary stats do a lot , gez skill speed kills my tp and does nearly nothing for my dps , crit however
    i was going to do some math with you but when you said "what do u want , being able to one shot bosses?" i lost the desire
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