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    Felis, DoctorPepper did you 2 read anything i said? cause im pretty sure your comments are redundant... except the part about the relic... no one here is talking about the relic, not sure why you felt compelled to talk about that. i'm talking about ilvl and weapon damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    Felis, DoctorPepper did you 2 read anything i said? cause im pretty sure your comments are redundant... except the part about the relic... no one here is talking about the relic, not sure why you felt compelled to talk about that. i'm talking about ilvl and weapon damage
    lol what are you talking about? You specifically mentioned "so i finished my relic and i felt my damage didn't go as high as i was expecting it to go" in literally the opening statement of your original post, which is what I replied to.

    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    So i finished my relic and i felt my damage didn't go as high as i was expecting it to go.
    Maybe you should read your own posts? I don't know, but then you go on to say you're beating people with i130/135 weapons with an i115 weapon, you're not unless the rest of your gear is vastly better or they're not doing their job properly. Maybe you were in an i110 capped dungeon and beat them.. in which case having an i135 weapon makes no difference at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    Maybe you should read your own posts? I don't know, but then you go on to say you're beating people with i130/135 weapons with an i115 weapon, you're not unless the rest of your gear is vastly better or they're not doing their job properly. Maybe you were in an i110 capped dungeon and beat them.. in which case having an i135 weapon makes no difference at all.
    dude what's the difference between the relic and the dredwyrn weapon? none secondary stats which is almost irrelevant to dps and such to the conversastion. i said i finished the relic because that's when i realized it not because is relevant. i'm talking about ilvl and weapon damage not relics and how they should "make me a god". i was not beating people with 130/135 weapons? how do you know? have we not established that the increased was only 10% you think a mnk can't do 10% more dps than a blm for example on a single target? do you know so little about this game? they were not bad players
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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    dude what's the difference between the relic and the dredwyrn weapon? none secondary stats which is almost irrelevant to dps and such to the conversastion. i said i finished the relic because that's when i realized it not because is relevant. i'm talking about ilvl and weapon damage not relics and how they should "make me a god". i was not beating people with 130/135 weapons? how do you know? have we not established that the increased was only 10% you think a mnk can't do 10% more dps than a blm for example on a single target? do you know so little about this game? they were not bad players the weapons didn't scale correctly
    lol ok well I think I'm done with this thread.. you're either drunk or don't know what you're talking about in your own thread. Of course mnk does more dps than blm on a single target.. it's been that way forever. The only way you're beating another person who is the same job as you with a weapon 20 ilvl lower is if the rest of their gear sucks, they suck, or you're in a capped dungeon. I don't know anything about this game though so just ignore me and keep posting your nonsense.. lol good luck buddy.
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    well that's your problem... you're assuming too much. when did i say i was beating people of the same job? when did i say i was hoping "to become a god" when i finished the relic or that i was doing relic to "avoid coil"? or that i was doing ilvl synced dungeons. assumptions assumptions assumptions.

    alright kthxbai
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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    secondary stats which is almost irrelevant to dps
    lol

    Take away Spell Speed from a BLM and see how he feels about secondary stats being irrelevant.

    As for your "scaling" - I guess you don't realize that a smaller % increase of a big number can be equivalent to a bigger % increase of a small number. Basic math, as you said right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    lol

    Take away Spell Speed from a BLM and see how he feels about secondary stats being irrelevant.

    As for your "scaling" - I guess you don't realize that a smaller % increase of a big number can be equivalent to a bigger % increase of a small number. Basic math, as you said right?
    Do you have documentation of a spell speed blm vs a lets say det or crit blm doing a lot more dps? cause i'd like to see that.... as for the second part i'm not sure what you're talking about or how that's relevant to the conversation. are you saying that a 1 which is 1% of a hundred is 10% of a 10? ok... i guess....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    Felis, DoctorPepper did you 2 read anything i said? cause im pretty sure your comments are redundant... except the part about the relic... no one here is talking about the relic, not sure why you felt compelled to talk about that. i'm talking about ilvl and weapon damage
    I wrote no word about relic

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    They do not, however, have the same attack speed. It's an important thing to note for Paladin, who uniquely benefits from increased attack speed (Sword Oath).
    Attack Speed depend on the weapon sub-type
    like Long Bow versus Short Bow
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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    So i finished my relic and i felt my damage didn't go as high as i was expecting it to go. when i did some math i realized that even though the relic ilvl had grown by roughly 18% compared to a 115 weapon the 135 weapon damage had only increased roughly 9%. Why is this? I mean is not like dps is a problem but why not increase the damage with the ilvl and make a real difference?
    So what you're saying is you see minimal difference in damage between an i115 weapon and an i135 weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    So what you're saying is you see minimal difference in damage between an i115 weapon and an i135 weapon?
    yes less than 10% to be exact
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