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  1. #21
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    stoxastic's Avatar
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    Stox Diamond
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I have to agree with Zaft here. The only reason we even bring a PLD to raid content is because we only have 2 tanks and a second WAR doesn't really provide much in terms of storm debuff uptime. PLD has some nice stuff like HG and Cover to help cheese mechanics but like mentioned before, it's too situational. If DRK provides any sort of valuable utility, PLD is as good as gone. For example, if DRK gets an INT down debuff to MNK's dragon kick, it removes the requirement for MNK in progression content.

    PLD needs some help to provide some real utility to raids. I'd like to see PLD with some new defensive skills available that will help out the party, like a nerfed version of Testudo. I'd also like to see PLD's playstyle become more interesting instead of just a 123 bot.
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    Last edited by stoxastic; 03-25-2015 at 04:15 AM.

  2. #22
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    aisustrong's Avatar
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    Aisu Strong
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    My only issue with riot blade being made into a repeatedly used combo is that it would be a TP monster.

    I think that it would actually be more interesting for PLD to get a SPELL that combos with riot blade. Possibly Astra or dia. A light elemental spell that has extremely high potency, like 800 or more, and high MP cost, like 500+ MP, (the high potency is to make up for the fact Paladin has no magic damage and low INT). And make it grant some kind of debuff like lowers opponent's magic resistance by 5%. Making it combo well with itself and with mages. Then make the combo bonus something like, performing it after riot blade makes it AoE, or after riot blade it is half MP cost.

    Or maybe even both these effects, based on what you combo off of, performing it after rage of halone makes it AoE while performing it after riot blade makes it half MP cost.
    riot restores mp, could just have its next in line restore tp
    and a level 52 trait to lower tp cost of riot
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  3. #23
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    Riyos's Avatar
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    Akio Sakiro
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Why not a second combo out of Savage Blade. While Rage of Halone reduces STR, make this 3rd combo reduce INT and MND, not to mention increased enmity. I just feel that Fast Blade -> Riot Blade is already complete that I can only see it branching out of Fast Blade -> Savage Blade.
    Why not a 4th aoe combo that instakills every mob?
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  4. #24
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Riyos View Post
    Why not a 4th aoe combo that instakills every mob?
    I still think Paladin needs a gun.
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  5. #25
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    Riepah Redeemer
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    I really don't want an ability on PLD that only helps to buff MNKs.
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  7. #26
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    VargasVermillion's Avatar
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    Val Vermillion
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    I still think Paladin needs a gun.
    What about a gunblade/gunshield?
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  8. #27
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    Steady's Avatar
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    Steady Styrmdraga
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    I really don't want an ability on PLD that only helps to buff MNKs.
    It lowers INT. I.e. reduces party damage.
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  9. #28
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    Wournsfeik Untawhasyn
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    What about a gunblade/gunshield?
    Only if you defect the Garleans.
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  10. #29
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    Felicia Meracle
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    As someone who prefers to main as PLD over WAR, even when DRK comes around (though DRK will easily overtake WAR in 2nd most preferred Tank for me when it comes around I believe), reading the words "PLD will get tossed aside when DRK comes around" makes me cringe. PLD had better get some damn good skills with the release of the Heavensward expansion.

    I don't like the idea of continuing to main as a PLD, only for players to look at me and scoff at me with elitist views, claiming... no... DEMANDING I switch to a different Tank. I already get such remarks on rare occasions whenever I play as a SMN. I sure as hell don't need to listen to that crap while running around as a PLD in Heavensward. I'll play as any class I want regardless, but I'm sick of getting such remarks.

    Here's to hopping that Heavensward will find a way to make all classes relatively equal to one another, making it so that ALL roles have important things that only they can bring.
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  11. #30
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Magic Defense Down - Combo'd off Riot Blade.

    Make it happen.
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